Route 9, 8, PHB&NC

Donald Galt galtfd at att.net
Tue Nov 9 15:29:45 EST 1999


On 9 Nov 99, at 13:38, Fred Schneider wrote:

> By the way, Route 9 was not always a transfer route.  I remember an old
> Pittsburgh map that my father had that showed two different routes to
> the old Charles Street carhouse.  Route 7 Charles Street ran through
> Manchester.  Route 9 came out Federal Street and Perrysville Avenue from
> downtown, then turned down the Charles Street hill.

The Arnold report, tabulating ridership statistics for 21 February 1910, 
shows 109-Charles Street and 110-Charles Street Transfer (the numbering 
system in the Arnold report is a mystery to me.)

The report lists the round-trip mileage of route 110 as 1.25 miles, plus .66 
miles "dead" mileage. A mile and a quarter is essentially the distance from 
Irwin Street to Perrysville Avenue and back. Route 109, with a round trip 
mileage of 6.22 miles, has the same .66 mi dead mileage, which more or 
less corresponds to the distance from Irwin Street to Charles St. Carhouse.

Six 19' 3" cars are shown assigned to Charles Street Transfer - this seems 
mightily puzzling!

Onward:

My 1930 street map shows Charles Street Transfer as a separate route so 
named.

This map lists all the "transfer" routes unnumbered - Schoenville, Thornburg, 
Shadeland, Rebecca, to name just a handful. I had always assumed that 
these shuttles didn't receive numbers until much later.

D2



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