Brill Coaches

[Vigrass, Bill]

The issue with the major Cleveland article is in "Motor Coach Age" July-Sept
1999, Vol. L, No. 3, ISSN 0739-117X,  published by the Motor Bus Society,
Inc., P. O. Box 251, Paramus, NJ 07653, single copies $5, dues $30 per year.
They publish good stuff, well researched.  Bill.

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	From:  Vigrass, Bill
	Sent:  Tuesday, November 09, 1999 9:27 AM
	To:  'pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org'
	Cc:  etb-list at sfu.ca
	Subject:  RE: Brill Coaches

	See the new issue of Motor Coach Age for a complete well written
article on Cleveland buses and trolleybuses, with good maps.  Included is a
review of streetcar service and routes that preceded the buses/trolleybuses.
It is an excellent issue and ought to answer all the questions I have seen
in these exchanges.  Authors were Jim Toman and Blaine Hays, same people who
wrote the two volume set on Cleveland Streetcars (to which I contributed,
see first chapter of Vol. 2).   I am pleased to see the interest in
Cleveland, my home town.  Is there a website about Cleveland similar to the
one I have been reading about Pittsburgh?   
	Bill Vigrass, billvigrass at hillintl.com.   

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Kenneth and Tracie Josephson
[mailto:kjosephson at sprintmail.com]
	Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 1:57 PM
	To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
	Cc: etb-list at sfu.ca
	Subject: Re: Brill Coaches


	Robert E. Rathke wrote:
	> 
	> I took a couple of photos of trolley coaches on Superior Avenue in
	> Cleveland in the mid-50's after the trolleys had been abandoned.
The
	> trolley coaches were gone by the time I moved to Cleveland in the
late
	> 60's - anyone know when the TC's there were abandoned?

	Hi Bob,

	1963. To tie this in with this list's subject matter, some Illinois
	Railway Museum members went to a Western Pennsylvania truck and bus
	salvage yard to obtain some parts for a vintage Chicago motor coach.
	They discovered a group of Cleveland trolley coaches in the yard!

	BTW, I'm sure Richard DeArmond would like some copies of those
Superior
	Avenue pix for his trolley coach web site. Please e-mail me
privately if
	you can help. Thanks!

	Ken J.