Old PRCo route numbers
John Swindler
j_swindler at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 23 11:54:50 EST 1999
Donald Galt commented concerning the Arnold report car assignment numbers:
>
>The distances shown for the "transfer" routes obviously are those for the
>isolated shuttles, but that needn't preclude peak-hour service downtown. It
>would also help to know whether the numbers of cars shown would correspond
>to those necessary to provide through services at those intervals and at
>those distances from the Triangle. Library Street, for instance, is much
>farther from town than is upper Charles Street, but the car assignments
>shown are the same.
>
>
There's no reason to assume Library St. or Corey were peak hour routes to
the Triangle. Demand would be to the mills, not downtown.
And thought I read somewhere that 21 at one time did not cross the Allegheny
River but looped on northside.(???) In airline industry it's called a "hub"
airport. Was Pittsburgh Railways running a "hub" on northside? How about
elsewhere? Maybe we overlook the economics that drove most of PRC's
decisions. It's expensive to run cars only half full.
And back to question of Charles St. Maybe 9-Charles St. transfer was only
extended to northside in rush? Just a possibility not to overlook.
>There are trippers shown on the table, including a number grouped together
>without further identification. Does this work against Fred's hypothesis?
>
Not necessarily. These could be short turns that don't even appear on the
schedule. Fred has a story about 4-5 Manheim buses leaving Lancaster at 5
p.m. around 1950, but only one need appear on the schedule. The rest were
various short turns. Likewise, Ed L. has evidence of West Penn short turn
trippers that don't appear on any schedules.
There was also a comment about 32 P&LE Transfer and Mt. Washington. Wasn't
it 33-Shiloh that went up back of Mt. Washington, and where was "city"
terminal? Did 33 go across Point Bridge or along Carson St to southside?
As for 32, I remember crossover on Carson St. near the tunnel. However, map
from 1945 shows crossover on approach to Smithfield St. bridge. Very
strange.
John S.
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