PRCo 1700 series City Cars

[Kenneth and Tracie Josephson]

Jim Holland wrote:


> > Edward H. Lybarger wrote: - NOT true - Jim H. did!!!!!!!

I apologize... sloppy cutting and pasting on my part. 

>         Mr. Nit-Picker - Cousin Ken - is at it again! :>)  YES - what you
> say is very true.  I went thru that whole scenario with the advent of the
> LRVs here in SF - realizing that I was reacting to the LRV the same way
> that railfans reacted to the PCC when they arrived.  I made a real
> determined effort to like the LRV cars but in all honesty, they just do
> not appeal to me!  I do like Portland and DO make plans to go there just
> to ride them - but wouldn't do that for other systems.

Personally, I don't see how anyone could like the Boeing-Vertol cars. I
do like the CLRVs though they don't ride as well as the PCC cars they
replaced. The San Diego cars (both series) are fast and fun to ride. I
could almost picture the first generation S-D cars with a single
headlight, trolley poles and pilots. One critic has mentioned that most
modern LRV look like insects...

San Diego does run their system with a sense of urgency. LA and
Pittsburgh seems to slow their cars down everytime a grade crossing
accident occurs. Hello? The train/trolley ALWAYS has the right of way...

>         Here in SF I take pains to avoid the LRVs - they are not
> comfortable, they are slow, and just don't seem practical.  Rode UTDC in
> San Jose twice and the same for Sacramento since both have been opened.
> If I don't ride those again, I won't be missing nutting!

At least San Jose doesn't try to outdo the New Haven in catenary
comstruction. 

>         Have never been on any of the LA LRVs even though I had rellies
> on three sides of *that place.*  Will not make plans to ride the systems,
> either.

A slow ride, for sure. The cars are well maintained, but the county cops
who ride are scarier than the gang members they are watching. Ken J.