PRCo 1700 series City Cars

Vigrass, Bill billvigrass at hillintl.com
Thu Oct 14 11:43:35 EDT 1999


I rode the LA Green Line a year ago and found it fast and smooth, in the
median of I-105. Bill Vigrass.  

> ----------
> From: 	Kenneth and Tracie Josephson[SMTP:kjosephson at sprintmail.com]
> Reply To: 	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: 	Saturday, October 09, 1999 10:36 AM
> To: 	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: 	Re: PRCo  1700  series  City  Cars
> 
> Jim Holland wrote:
> 
> 
> > > Edward H. Lybarger wrote: - NOT true - Jim H. did!!!!!!!
> 
> I apologize... sloppy cutting and pasting on my part. 
> 
> >         Mr. Nit-Picker - Cousin Ken - is at it again! :>)  YES - what
> you
> > say is very true.  I went thru that whole scenario with the advent of
> the
> > LRVs here in SF - realizing that I was reacting to the LRV the same way
> > that railfans reacted to the PCC when they arrived.  I made a real
> > determined effort to like the LRV cars but in all honesty, they just do
> > not appeal to me!  I do like Portland and DO make plans to go there just
> > to ride them - but wouldn't do that for other systems.
> 
> Personally, I don't see how anyone could like the Boeing-Vertol cars. I
> do like the CLRVs though they don't ride as well as the PCC cars they
> replaced. The San Diego cars (both series) are fast and fun to ride. I
> could almost picture the first generation S-D cars with a single
> headlight, trolley poles and pilots. One critic has mentioned that most
> modern LRV look like insects...
> 
> San Diego does run their system with a sense of urgency. LA and
> Pittsburgh seems to slow their cars down everytime a grade crossing
> accident occurs. Hello? The train/trolley ALWAYS has the right of way...
> 
> >         Here in SF I take pains to avoid the LRVs - they are not
> > comfortable, they are slow, and just don't seem practical.  Rode UTDC in
> > San Jose twice and the same for Sacramento since both have been opened.
> > If I don't ride those again, I won't be missing nutting!
> 
> At least San Jose doesn't try to outdo the New Haven in catenary
> comstruction. 
> 
> >         Have never been on any of the LA LRVs even though I had rellies
> > on three sides of *that place.*  Will not make plans to ride the
> systems,
> > either.
> 
> A slow ride, for sure. The cars are well maintained, but the county cops
> who ride are scarier than the gang members they are watching. Ken J.
> 



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