PRC 100/M11 & ?? #100

Robert E. Rathke brathke at juno.com
Sat Oct 16 11:26:12 EDT 1999


Many thanks, Jim.

Bob 10/16
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The 21st Century starts on January 1, 2001.  Just a reminder.

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:12:17 -0700 Jim Holland <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
writes:
>Greetings!
>
>Robert E. Rathke wrote:
>
>> I've been reading the mail about the city location of  "the first 
>PCC",
>> but I don't seem to have the final, definitive word on this 
>question.
>> What can we say about the 100 being the "first..." (other than it 
>being
>> the first PCC in Pittsburgh)?
>
>	Quoting from *PCC The Car That Fought Back* page 76, bottom 
>photo 
>caption:
>	"Long forgotten today, Pittsburgh Railways car 100 was 
>actually 
>the first PCC delivered to a customer and was in both demonstration 
>loop 
>and revenue service on route 50 prior to the debut of the Brooklyn 
>cars.  
>Converted to an instruction car in 1950, it survived until 1967 when 
>it 
>was rejected by PRC's successor . . ."
>
>	From *The History of The St. Louis Car Company* by Young, page 
>196 
>photo caption:
>	"It is not generally appreciated that although Pittsburgh #100 
>was 
>ordered after the Brooklyn, Baltimore and Chicago cars, it was in fact 
>the 
>very first PCC car to be completed, delivered and put into service.  
>Finished in June 1936, it was running in Pittsburgh a few days later, 
>over 
>four months before the Brooklyn cars went into traffic."
>
>	From *PCC From Coast to Coast* page 162, first full paragraph:
>	"In the spring of 1936 the Sunday newspaper supplements 
>carried 
>the news that Pittsburgh Railways had purchased its first PCC car.  
>Although the single vehicle comprised the fourth order placed with St. 
>
>Louis Car, number 100 was the first PCC car delivered in the world.  
>It 
>ran in free demonstration service for two weeks starting September 12 
>. ."
>
>	In *From Horsecars to Streamliners - An Illustrated History of 
>The 
>St. Louis Car Company* page 366, it shows:
>	"Job order 1600 for Brooklyn 1001-1099, shipped 
>1936.08.19-1937.01.08.  Job order 1601 for Baltimore, shipped 
>1936.08.29-1936.11.19.   Job order 1602 for CSL shipped 
>1936.10.22-1937.01.29.  Job order 1603 for PRCo #100, shipped 
>1936.07.23.
>Job order 1604 for PRCo 1000-1099 shipped 1937.01.20-1937.05.20."  All 
>
>succeeding dates are later for PCC delivery.
>
>	I also have a copy of a typewritten report dated "10/18/38" 
>but I 
>do not know its source.
>	For Brooklyn it says:
>	"NO. OF CARS:  100 (placed in service beginning October 1, 
>1936; 
>full schedule in operation during month of December 1937.)  Total car 
>miles operated to July 1, 1938 - approx. 7,100,000."
>	For Baltimore it says:
>	"NO. OF CARS:  27 (Placed in service in December, 1936 and 
>January, 1937).  Car miles operated to January 1, 1938 - 2,113,000."
>	For CSL it says:
>	"NO. OF CARS:  83 (first placed in service November 13, 1937; 
>all 
>service by February 20, 1937).  Total miles operated to June 30, 1938 
>- 
>4,785,000."
>	For PRCo it says:
>	"NUMBER OF CARS AND DISTRIBUTION"
>		"The Pittsburgh Railways Copmpany has in operation 201 
>
>P.C.C. cars, which have been on the property since the following 
>dates:
>#100 July 26, 1936; 1000-1099 January 23, 1937 to May 23, 1937; 
>1100-1199 
>October 12, 1937-January 24, 1938.  Total car miles operated to August 
>31, 
>1938 - 11,880,765."
>
>	I have seen a couple dates for conversion to M11.
>
>	I have a question:  When referring to a 17 we usually say 1712 
>or 
>1765.  When referring to a 16 we usually say 1614 or 1630.  Same for 
>all 
>the other series of PCC Streetcars EXCEPT M11 ex #100 - why do we put 
>the 
>"#" sign in front of 100??????? !!!!!!!
>
>James B. Holland
>------- -- ---------
>        Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo), June of 1949 -- June of 
>1953
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