The Drake Photos

[Jim Holland]

Greetings!

Fred W. Schneider III wrote:

> At Arden, the two electric switches (one at Arden and the other for the barn
> lead) have the moveable points on the inside of the curve.  The switch from 1 to
> 2 track is inside.  How many thousand pictures should I look at to develop a
> consensus?

	How about ten  --  ten-thousand, that is!  You are retired now and need
something to do to keep out of the other boss' hair, right?!?!<VBG> -
[just teasing!]

	But I shall pick up the gauntlet and use sources others might have so
verification might be made.  *PCC The Car That Fought Back* has many Pgh
photos but none that show turnouts.  I'll use *PCC From Coast to Coast*
(PCC-FCC) - Harold Smith's *Touring Pgh. by Trolley* (TPT) - Volkmer's
Color Pgh book (VCP) - and Lind's St. Louis Car book (LSLC).  Page
numbers will be given.  I shall also use other sources - ERA - my own
photo collection - *Trolley Talk* (TT).  All will be identified with
pg.# and / or photo-#.  Photo sources:: Railroad Avenue Entereprizes
(RRE); Harold A. Smith (HAS); Scholes Photos (S)); M.D.-McCarter (MDM);
NRHS New Jersey (NJ); John Brinckman (JB).

	The turnout must be clearly visible to see the point and mate or the
toggle box attached to the point must be clearly seen.  Those which are
unclear will just be skipped over.  A number preceding the listing will
indicate the number of points visible in the photo.  "Point-On" means
the car is facing the point; "Trailing" means the car is facing the
pivot of the point.  As this is a Pgh. list, only PRCo shall be
considered.

INSIDE--RAIL  POINT
	2-Northbound Smithfield to East carson, Point-On and Trail,
		PCC-FCC pg.178.
	2-Smithfield & Carson, 50-line Jct Point-On & Trail
		ERA May-Jun 1986, cover
	1-Duquesne Way to Sixth Bridge Trail, TPT pg.11 bottom
	1-Federal & ? Trail, TPT pg.12 bottom
	1-East Ohio & ? Point-On point removed, mate still intact
		TPT pg.13
	2-East & Perrysville, Point-On & Trail, TPT pg.16
	1-Perrysville & Charles Trail from 21-line, TPT pg.35 bottom
	2-Monongahela & Rebecca, Point-On & Trail, TPT pg.39 top
	1-Miller & Main 65-line siding
	1-Jane St Loop trail, TPT pg.51 bottom
	1-Electric to Wood Point-On, TPT. pg.52 top
	1-Arlington near Carson entering single track, TPT pg.78
	2-On Beltzhoover at Warrington, Point-On and Trail
		TPT pg. 79
	1-Duquesne Blvd east of Kennywood Park, trail, VCP pg.101
	5-Craft Ave yards, VCP pg.113
	2-Craft Ave yard, personal photo
	2-Keating yard tracks, LSLC pg.147
	2-Washington Jct., Point-On & Trail, TT #24-1, Aug 1959
	2-Tylerdale yard tracks, TT #22-3
	1-SHJ Admin back track to interurban outbound, Point-On
		TT #174-3, April 1986
	1-SHJ 44-38 jct outbound, Point-On, exit Tunnel,
		ERA Sep-Oct 1969 cover
	2-SHJ Derails, Point-On, 44-48 & interurban-38 etc.
	3-Loop of Admin Bldg, interurban inbound and 44-48 outbound,
		RRE #PN-12647
	2-SHJ-Interurban-42 jct, Point-On & Trail
	1-Leaving Castle Shannon Loop IB, Trail, RRE #PN-12627
	1-Entering Castle Shannon Loop OB, Point-On, Russel Schramm
	3-Interurban Wye, Little Washington, Russel Schramm
	3-42-Dormont Wye, personal photos
	1-Simmons loop Library
	1-Drake loop, http://trolley.dementia.org/lybarger
	1-SHJ Back track to interurban outbound Trail, SP #PGH-0088
	2-42-line passing siding, Biltmore outbound, personal photos
	3-SHJ yard leads from 42-line, MDM #N20954
	6-SHJ yard tracks 1,2,3,4,5,6
	5-Ingram yard tracks, NJ #PGH-086(2)
	2-Shady & Penn, 60-line Point-On & Trail, RRE #PN-12676
	2-88-line loop track on Tioga, PTM 1991 calendar, pg.2
	1-Liberty Grant 87-line Trail, HAS #PI-0872
	1-Brinton to bridge, 62-line, PTM calendar, July 1993
	1-Clearview loop outbound, Point-On, personal photo
	1-Court Place & 5th inbound Trail, HAS #PI-0216
	1-Carrick yard, JB #PGH-0017
	2-Heidelberg loop, photo source unknown
	2-Centre & Negley, HAS #PI-0856
TOTAL  81


OUTSIDE--RAIL  POINT
	2-Smithfield to & from W. Carson, Point-On & Trail
		ERA May-Jun 1986, cover
	1-Glassport turnout, Point-On, TPT pg.39 center
	1-Dawn Jct Trail, TPT pg.80, top
	1-On Forbes Trail inbound from Craft yards, LSLC pg.143
	1-Tioga 76-line outbound Point-On, TT #50-3, Sep 1964
	1-Tioga loop to Wood Trail outbound, TT #180-8, April 1987
	2-Charleroi Barn leads - by necessity!  Photo source unknown.
	1-Braddock westbound to ramp and loop to Rankin Bridge
		southbound, 55line inbound, RRE #PN-12681
	1-Craft Avenue yard, SP #PGH-1174
	1-Craft Ave yard by necessity, personal photo
TOTAL  12

	Skipped - quite a few!

	There are more outside rail points than I would have assumed and I am
sure there are more.  Some appeared to be this way but could not say for
sure so I had to skip.  But I think it is safe to say that the general
practice is to put the point on the inside rail.
	It is interesting to note that a standard practice for sidings in the
street is that the car entering the siding is on tangent until several
feet past the point - the turnout is not a true "Y" configuration.  And
in most cases the point is inside rail.

> > Say isn't the movable point on the "wrong" side.  It makes sense to be there
> > but I was under the impression that putting the movable point on the inside
> > of the curve was the exception to the rule.

James B. Holland
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