South Hills Junction Updated

[Carl Zager]

John,

I figured I owed it, especially since I had referenced your original note.
I always appreciate better information than what I have, and I always
appreciate the information shared on this list.

Sounds like 1630 would make interesting one-of model.


On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, John F Bromley wrote:

> Thanks for your "thanks" - so many people never bother.
> 
> It occurs to me that the 1630 was the only PCC EVER to have both a pre-war
> style trolley shroud AND a forward roof vent.  1630 never had the vent
> originally of course, having had roof fans, so the vent was another addition
> when the roof fans were removed.  Unlike other cars the rear-facing vent was
> not added.
> 
> John Bromley
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Zager" <czager at bloomington.in.us>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 5:10 PM
> Subject: Re: South Hills Junction Updated
> 
> 
> > Thanks, John. Good information.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, John F Bromley wrote:
> >
> > > Re: 1630
> > >
> > > Pittsburgh Railways had 102 cars with roof fans, the 1700s (100), 1600
> (1)
> > > and 1630 (1).  Whether you can see the numbers or not it is 1630, not
> 1620
> > > or any other 1600, simply because the other 101 cars with roof fans had
> the
> > > postwar body.  Look it up.  1630.  Period.
> > >
> > > John Bromley
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Carl Zager" <czager at bloomington.in.us>
> > > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 9:31 AM
> > > Subject: Re: South Hills Junction Updated
> > >
> > >
> > > > I enhanced a portion of the photo John refers to, but my tools, my
> skills,
> > > > and my eyes may not be as good as John's. The car in question is
> signed 73
> > > > Highland. At first (at full size on Robert's page) I looked carefully
> at
> > > > the "16xy." Even at that resolution the "y" is a "0," so we are now
> > > > "solving for x."
> > > >
> > > > "It sure looks like a '2,'" the guy who thought he rode a low-floor
> outta
> > > > SHJ in 1962 said to himself. So I grabbed it and blew up that section
> (By
> > > > the way, I DID NOT KEEP a copy. That photo belongs to someone other
> than
> > > > me.) At 2:1 and 3:1, "x" looks like a "3." At 4:1, it looks like a
> "2."
> > > >
> > > > So, 16xy is either 1630 or 1620. John has historical info on the 1630.
> Is
> > > > it possible it is 1620?
> > > >
> > > > :: Carl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, John F Bromley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I was justt browsing your wewbsite, following the offered link, and
> have
> > > the
> > > > > flollowing to note on a coiuyple of your photos in the roster links.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the 1600 link the second photo is not 1600 but 1630, apparenmtly
> in
> > > front
> > > > > of Highland Park CH (you asked for more data).  The roof monitor was
> > > > > removed, I think about 1960-61 but I'm prepared to be corrected,
> when it
> > > > > received a small cowling from a 1000 or 1100 series to run out its
> days
> > > > > looking like one of those series cars.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the 4200 series photo link, you have a question mark on 4388.
> The
> > > last
> > > > > number appears to me to be a 9, probbly 4389 or 4399.  I don't know
> the
> > > > > scrapping dates for those cars, but if they lasted until that photo
> was
> > > > > taken it's one of them.
> > > > >
> > > > > John F Bromley
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Dietrich, Robert J." <bob.dietrich at unisys.com>
> > > > > To: <trolley at railspot.com>; <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 4:06 PM
> > > > > Subject: South Hills Junction Updated
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > To all of you who expressed interest I've finally updated the
> module
> > > > > > progress with words and a picture.  Go straight to the update by
> > > clicking
> > > > > > this -- http://www.voicenet.com/~dietrich/SHJ/module.htm#Nov27
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm embarrassed because I kept putting off updating the web
> thinking
> > > it
> > > > > > would take a long time.  When I sat down to do it I found there
> was
> > > little
> > > > > > to say about the progress.  I did, though, finalize the track
> plan -
> > > only
> > > > > > because the track laying has been completed, nothing changes now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also made some changes to the picture pages, like correct the
> > > spelling
> > > > > of
> > > > > > names in the credits.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you haven't been to the site before here is the home page --
> > > > > > http://www.voicenet.com/~dietrich/SHJ/default.htm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks and enjoy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob Dietrich
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Carl Zager KB9RVB
> > > >  czager at bloomington.in.us         http://www.mccsc.edu/~czager
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  Carl Zager KB9RVB
> >  czager at bloomington.in.us         http://www.mccsc.edu/~czager
> >
> >
> 

 Carl Zager						KB9RVB
 czager at bloomington.in.us         http://www.mccsc.edu/~czager