A while back, there was some discussion about car 1602 and as to when it was scrapped. Here is a mid 1960s shot of the car, taken by (as usual) Roberta Hill: http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/pitt311.jpg When was this car lost? (When a Pittsburgh PCC "dies", it is not merely scrapped, it is lost, like a dear friend.) :-) Ken J.