1602

[John F Bromley]

I think Dave Hamley is the expert on PCC's for Pittsburgh and I expect his
excellent series in Trolley Fare has pretty much documented the disposals.
I expect 1968 is correct, although whether that car was disposed of later in
the year or as early as January 2nd is unknown as Dave's articles don't get
that specific.  Perhaps the process was begun in 1967 and finished in 1968.
Scrapping dates here in Toronto are considered to be the day of the car's
final disposition, thus a car started into the scrapping process on Dec 17,
1975 with the last piece removed January 2, 1976 would be considered as
scrapped on Jan 2, 1976.


----- Original Message -----
From: <HRBran99 at aol.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: 1602


> In a message dated 12/24/00 8:16:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> johnfbromley at home.com writes:
>
> << 1602 was scrapped in 1968 at South Hills in a group of 29.  YThe data
is
>  from Dave Hamley's series on Pittsburgh PCC Car Disposition, Part 3, in
>  PTM's "Trolley Fare".
>   >>
> "PCC-From Coast to Coast," by Schneider & Carlson indicates 1967 as the
year
> of scrapping, along with 63 other cars. The Schneider/Carlson book does,
> however, contain a disclaimer concerning disposition dates. At any rate
the
> car was "lost" sometime in 1967 or 1968.
>
> <<Why "as usual" by Roberta Hill?  Who is that person - I've seen other
photos
> credited, none very spectacular.>>
>
> Roberta Hill, aka Carbarn Sally, God rest her soul, was one of the most
> active and adventuresome traction photographers of the 1960s and 1970s.
She
> took thousands of photos which documented the ending years of PCC and
> trackless trolley operations in the US and Canada. While her photos echo
the
> photographic technology of her era and thus may not seem spectacular when
> compared to a modern, top of the line, digital camera, she had a way of
> incorporating neighborhoods, people, and objects into them. (Talk about a
run
> on sentence!) Ken Josephson can fill in the fine details of her life and
> photography.
>
> HrB