Car Life

Fred W. Schneider III fschnei at supernet.com
Thu Dec 28 18:52:41 EST 2000


When did the 3750s go to Sewickley?  What is the date on the drawing of
the floor plan Jim?  My den is in such a clutter that finding it would
be fruitless right now. 

Jim Holland wrote:
> 
> Greetings!
> 
>         'There is an exception to every rule' and many other cliches led me to
> the point where I avoid using absolutes.  Don't think it was mentioned
> below that the 3750s were  *never--ever--again*  used for interurban
> service  --  of course they were.  But as the 3750s were built primarily
> for MU--Charleroi service yet proved quite unpopular with both crews and
> passengers, they were not primarily used for this purpose after the
> 3800s arrived.
>         Yes - have the  *Headlights*  article (Sept--Oct--1984) where Bill
> Vigrass details the Great Circle Tour he and friends took in the late
> 1940s and saw the photo of the 3761 at Downes Deli inbound with
> 3700-herself beside her bound for the Roscoe Loop.  But this photo was
> NOT  taken by Bill - it is credited to Duke-Middleton Collection so it
> was probably supplied by the  *Headlights*  editor; photo is not dated.
> But the article itself does mention that they rode to Shannon on a
> 3750-series car.
> 
>         Tom Phillips shares the following:  "After the advent of the 3800's,
> the 3750's, still assigned to the interurban lines (at Castle Shannon
> Barn until 1932 and then South Hills) were primarily used in regular
> service on 37-SHANNON where they stayed, rarely straying, until they
> were displaced by the 1400's in March 1942.  Up to that time PCC's were
> not normally used on 37-SHANNON."
>         Tom doesn't recall offhand when part of this series was dedicated to
> Sewickley service.
> 
>         So it seems that the *rule* was that the 3750s were used on Shannon
> locals - the  *exception--to--the--rule*  is that these cars  *did*
> occasionally stray to Roscoe and possibly Washington.
> 
>         Don't have any official information about the early PCCs running all
> the way on the interurbans, but comments in print about testing 1613 on
> Washington indicate that PCCs had made the trip before.
> 
> > Fred W. Schneider III wrote:
> 
> > The 3750s were never fully retired from interurban service until there
> > were enough PCC cars.  And after that there were instances of 1200s or
> > 1400s from Tunnel running all the way out on the interurbans.  The 3750s
> > ran as Library and Castle Shannon cars until they were scrapped c.
> > 1953.  I've ridden them there. Bill Vigrass got a pounding one night
> > riding one from Roscoe to Castle Shannon, c. 1946.  Dick Steinmetz had a
> > picture of one at Roscoe loop in the 1940s.
> 
> >> Kenneth Josephson wrote:
> 
> >> . . . The low
> >> floors were very attractive looking cars in my opinion. People I know who
> >> remember riding the ones converted to interurban service hated them and some
> >> claimed they would wait for one of the "real" interurbans to come along if
> >> possible. But they are nice to look at.
> 
> >>> Jim Holland wrote:
> 
> >>>         Say  What?!?!:->??  The 3750s as interurbans (which were Built For
> >>> Interurban Service, not converted) were very short-lived  --  1925--1930
> >>> at the most as the 15-St.Louis' supplemented the 15-Brills in 1928.
> >>> They were occasionally used as trippers on the interurbans after this.
> >>> And the first 9-10 had a left side door cut in for Sewickley service
> >>> operated from South Hills.
> 
> James B. Holland
> 
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