Ozone

[brathke at juno.com]

You wanna see smoke?  Take a look at my photo of the U.S. Steel Clairton
Coke Works.  Also note the steam locomotive to the left, and the towboats
on the river.  

See <http://gelwood.railfan.net/other/gtw/gtw-s4070ar.jpg>.

Bob 7/3

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On Mon, 03 Jul 2000 18:40:12 -0400 "Fred W. Schneider III"
<fschnei at supernet.com> writes:
> Thanks for the wonderful opportunity to get way off target!  I love 
> it.
> Obviously, visible smoke is the result of very incomplete combustion 
> ... a heavy
> fire.  But the larger American locomotives used stokers to screw run 
> of the mine
> dirt and dust into the firebox ... a lot of that crap simply went 
> through the
> flues and up the stack unburnt.  I fired for several years at 
> Strasburg; it is
> possible to run with a relatively clean stack if you have nice 
> lumps.
> 
> The British always tended to run with a clean stack, but I don't 
> have any
> knowledge of how good the coal was that the burnt.  I do know that 
> few if any
> British locomotives had stokers ... they never dragged the weight 
> that we expected
> an engine to maul around.
> 
> And Wismer's West Penn picture at Hopwood was not retouched ... but 
> no one needed
> to with a stoker-fed Mallet throwing out the dirt.
> 
> Lester had a remarkable talent at catching steam and trolleys 
> together ... three
> perfect hits and ten or so near misses at Hatfield on the LVT (he 
> went out every
> Sunday after church once he determined that the steam train should 
> overtake the
> interurban there).  He had one similar hit with a Bethlehem to 
> Hellertown local
> car and a Reading drag.  And then there were the two on the West 
> Penn.  Makes me
> think he must have have been going to the right church ... should I 
> trade in the
> Episcopal church for the Mennonites?  Will it help?  Rhetorical of 
> course.  The
> fact is, though, that Lester Wismer really understood how to merge 
> trains and art
> into one great package.
> 
> Kenneth and Tracie Josephson wrote:
> 
> > Bob Schmidt wrote:
> >
> > > If our List discussion re Ozone production continues any 
> further, and
> > > the EPA gets wind of it, the demse of the trolley may well be 
> added to
> > > the list of causes for Ozone depletion. Move over flurocarbons!
> >
> > I'm going waaaaaaaaaaaay off topic, but I doubt you'll have to 
> worry about the
> > EPA anytime soon. They'll probably go after those jokers running 
> the steam
> > excursions first.
> >
> > You know, the guys who insist on having the locomotives smoke far 
> worse than
> > they ever did in regular service for a more dramatic runby and 
> photo op.
> > Smoking so much that the hogger and the fireman would be docked an 
> entire
> > day's pay for wasting fuel back in the days of steam.......
> >
> > How can I get back on topic? By mentioning that great photo of the 
> West Penn
> > car racing the smokin' steamer . That shot kicks butt! Ken J.
> 

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