Museum Policy

Jim Holland pghpcc at pacbell.net
Wed Jul 5 22:56:20 EDT 2000


Greetings!

Fred W. Schneider III wrote:

> Yes, New Orleans does fit the western Pennsylvania blueprint!

	On another list we were defining the word *trolleycar* and someone
deduced that a diesel like operated by PRR or NYC etc etc etc could be
called a trolleycar because it has electric traction motors and a wire
runs from the motors to the diesel generator!

	Your New Orleans comparison sounds like the same thing - when the
museum wants equipment from Western PA it is the whole car - the car
that actually operated in the area - not its parts, pieces, and
components.  The New Orleans car operated in Louisiana,  N-O-T 
Pennsylvania.

> Westinghouse Airbrake made the brake system.  Brill the trucks.  General
> Electric created the controls and motors.  I don't know who made the
> compressor, but it had to come from either East Pittsburgh or Erie PA.
> And there were probably 50-50 odds that the steel came from Pittsburgh!
> More than 50% of the value of that car came from Pennsylvania.

> And of the three cars that came with the museum, M-1 is damaged, 832 was
> in horrid shape when it left West Penn (and years of outdoor storage at
> Arden didn't help), and 3756 is collapsing like the proverbial one horse
> shay.  Maybe you would like to fund major body work on 3756?
> 
> pghpcc at pacbell.net wrote:
> 
> > Greetings!
> >
> > Still massive problems with ISP - unable to download email so
> > am using an independent source and responding this way as well.
> >
> > Still, regardless of the practicality, the original revenue PCC
> > should still have been saved.  If we were to work on the basis
> > of practicality in saving trolleycars, the museums would not
> > exist.
> >
> > Dave Hamley wrote an article for PTMs *Trolley Fare* chiding
> > PRMA for various decisions - saving RR equipment when the museum
> > was distinctly trolleycar and passing over PCC-100.  When I have
> > more time I shall look this article up - it has been mentioned
> > here before.
> >
> > Wasn't the Clark PCC saved?
> >
> > > "Fred W. Schneider III" wrote:
> > > Car M-11, nee 100, may have
> > > been the first PCC to actually hit the streets in revenue >
> > service but it would not really have been a good museum > car.
> >
> > --- Original Message ---
> > Kenneth and Tracie Josephson <kjosephson at sprintmail.com> Wrote
> > on
> > Mon, 03 Jul 2000 23:55:02 +0000
> >  ------------------
> >
> > : For example, what would PTM do with a standard gauge car :
> > from Oregon if a now deceased founding member had dragged : it
> > to Arden in 1955 simply because he liked it and had the
> > : political clout to acquire it? It wouldn't fit the PTM : "blueprint"
> > (nor its rails), yet it would be a tie to the : Museum's earliest
> > days.
> >
> > And New Orleans 832 does not fit the Western-PA blueprint, either,
> > yet it runs continuously.  And of the 3-cars which went to the
> > Museum  u-n-d-e-r  t-h-e-i-r  o-w-n  p-o-w-e-r  --  M1, West
> > Penn 832, 3756  --  ONLY the latter operates but then not at
> > all times.  It seems that equipment outside of Western PA does
> > the bulk of operating - New Orleans and Phlipadelphia!!
> >
> > Jim Holland
> >
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James B. Holland

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