CPI changes
brathke at juno.com
brathke at juno.com
Mon Jul 17 22:42:17 EDT 2000
I believe it was National Airlines. Good point, though, Fred.
Bob 7/17
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 19:52:44 -0400 "Fred W. Schneider III"
<fschnei at supernet.com> writes:
> John asks what about today? How about York, Pennsylvania, John,
> where YATA has
> spent tremendous sums marketing a name change to RABBITTRANSIT. I
> must have
> seen a dozen billboards today advertising a service that a portion
> of the public
> so small to be noticed uses it that we might just as well say it is
> useless. I
> was talking today to a friend who is on the transit agency board in
> York about
> their decision to use Rabbit in a name ... seemed somewhat sexist to
> me ...
> something similar to the old airline campaign (was it Eastern?) that
> went
> something to the effect," I'm Melinda, Fly me to Miami." How about,
> "I'm
> thumper. Ride me to the Mall." Larry, Curly and Moe aren't dead.
> Not by a
> long shot.
>
> John Swindler wrote:
>
> > Fred W. Schneider III commented:
> >
> > >My favorite story was his about a transit executive preparing for
> a board
> > >meeting by watching Three Stooges comedies ... it was saying that
> business
> > >reality has no place at all in transit any longer. Because of
> the
> > >operating subsidies and capital grants, and increasing
> inefficiency,
> > >transit costs have increased 50 times while the CPI has gone up 7
> times
> > >since 1950. This is critical to our understanding.
> >
> > As clarification, it was a recently retired executive director of
> a large
> > multi-modal transit system who claimed that he and the operating
> managers
> > watched Three Stooges comedies before board meetings because YOUR
> local
> > politicans have appointed "Larry, Curly and Moe" to YOUR local
> transit
> > systems' board of directors. Something to keep in mind next time
> you read a
> > newspaper account about how a transit board is spending YOUR tax
> dollars.
> >
> > This retired executive also had some interesting comments (which
> people
> > didn't like to hear) about the current state of transit
> management.
> > Essentually, to survive beyond the 1960s, transit had to "get in
> bed" with
> > politicians and labor to secure tax dollars. The result has been
> that "the
> > price of survival has ruined transit management".
> >
> > One of his examples was the 1,000 vehicle Pennsylvania bus pool
> purchase of
> > the early 1980s. The idea was for the state/PennDOT to pool
> transit bus
> > purchases from the state's transit authorities to attract a
> builder to
> > locate in PA.(ie, jobs) Except PA never even got a reliable bus,
> insteading
> > ending up with the Neoplan "Pennliners". Premature rusting of an
> A-frame
> > craddle in the engine compartment required millions wasted on
> rebuilding.
> > But his real story was that all the transit managers in PA
> dutifully lined
> > up for this bus-pool purchase with one exception. Bud Weeks at
> CAT in
> > Harrisburg was originally from ATE Management, which was similar
> to National
> > City Lines. Instead, CAT rejected the state money and used local
> funds to
> > overhaul a group of ten-year old GM buses. Today, you won't find
> any of
> > these "Pennliner" (rustliners?) buses on the streets of PA, but
> Harrisburg
> > still uses many of these now-25 year old GM buses in both peak and
> off-peak.
> >
> > To get back on topic, much as many railfans would disagree, ATE
> and National
> > City Lines were professional managers. So was West Penn and
> probably
> > Pittsburgh Railways. But what about today????? Yes, we have
> professional
> > fund raisers, and they are needed, but what about the future of
> light rail
> > operations, maintenance and planning? Or isn't it important
> anymore because
> > of the auto???
> >
> > Just some clarification, further comments and still unanswered
> questions.
> >
> > John S.
> >
> >
>
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On the other hand, you have different fingers.
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