Is this at the museum?

Kenneth and Tracie Josephson kjosephson at sprintmail.com
Sun Jun 11 06:53:58 EDT 2000



"Edward H. Lybarger" wrote:

> No 10s, 12s or 15s were retained.  Just 1138, 1440 and 1467, plus the
> multitude of later cars.

Thanks, Ed. As far as 1138 goes, the recent Trolley Fare article noted it would
be relatively expensive to restore it to its original condition. It also noted
most people who could remember the car as it was delivered are long gone.
Restoring it to its 1950's configuration makes sense.

But just in case, (and if some of us raise the funds), how you would feel about
acquiring one of the El Paso (ex-San Diego) cars that might be mechanically
cannabilized, but otherwise intact for parts? My thought is if there ever is a
decision to put the 1138 back to its orginal configuration, one of the El Paso
bodies could yield some hardware and other pieces tohelp restore the car as
built.

I wish to mention I am opposed to cutting up one of the twelve or so intact
cars that could be restored to operation. Sadly enough, ex-Sandiego 502
returned "home" to San Diego and was torched by vandals.

I'm not sure of the breakdown, but as I recall, 20 of these 1937-38 cars went
to El Paso, five were eventually used for parts and for a while, fifteen were
used in service, though only twelve remained in service by the end. Correct me
if I'm wrong, please.

To get back on subject, why did most Pittsburgh PCCs, including the newest cars
lose their Golden-Glo headlights so early in their careers? I have noticed most
Toronto cars lost theirs by the 1960's. Quite a few El Paso and LA PCCs appear
to have retained theirs until the end of operations.

Also, what voltage did the PCC car's headlights use? Ken J.




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