Is this at the museum?

Jim Holland pghpcc at pacbell.net
Sun Jun 11 17:56:01 EDT 2000


Greetings!

Kenneth and Tracie Josephson wrote:

> As far as 1138 goes, the recent Trolley Fare article noted it would
> be relatively expensive to restore it to its original condition. It also noted
> most people who could remember the car as it was delivered are long gone.

	What is the perceived difference between the 1950 and 1937 condition of
1138?  The only real big difference is 1138 apparently had mohair seats
when delivered, according to the list provided by Ed.
	The only other difference might be a conductors stand but from an
internal shot I have of one of the 11s, I don't see a difference in
seating arrangement, PRCo did not make any body changes (except to make
full width anti-climbers on many 10s and 11s - don't remember what 1138
has now).
	The paint scheme was modified to the hour-glass of the 17s but don't
know the date - could easily have been post 1950 and probably much later
as the 17s arrived in 1949.  Car 1138 probably had its original design,
and possibly its original paint in 1950!

> To get back on subject, why did most Pittsburgh PCCs, including the newest cars
> lose their Golden-Glo headlights so early in their careers?

	What do you consider early?  One might also ask, why did trolleycar
service disappear so early from many cities?  Maybe that is the reason
that many did not lose their Golden Glo headlights!
	Note that the 17s arrived with Golden Glo headlamps.  It is possible
that 1700 herself was the first interurban to receive the sealed beam as
early as 1951--1952.  I have a photo of her in Washington with the
sealed beam.  Very shiny paint on the front end.  She was probably in an
accident which caused the change in headlamps in rebuilding.  Golden
Glos were replaced mostly in the 1950s on PRCo - many cars still had
them in the mid 1950s and some into the late 1950s.
	The name of the headlamp kind of gives them away - the Golden Glo
identified the trolleycar but provided little illumination for the
operator as compared to a sealed beam headlamp.

James B. Holland

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