My Recollection

[Jim Holland]

Greetings!

> > Jim Holland wrote:

> >         Ken Josephson and I were apparently standing side by side at Clearview
> > Loop near Christmas of 1976. . . 
> > honestly, I absolutely do not remember this and I have vivid
> > memories of railfanning in that era!

> Kenneth and Tracie Josephson wrote:

> Here are some of  the images from that, including the yellow and white 1600 we
> rode:

> http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/pitt381.jpg
	My photo of this car shows the complete restaurant and more of the
homes on the hill above.
	Additionally, I also took this photo of 1780::
http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/pitt124.jpg

> http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/pitt390.jpg

	My photo of 1730 is more broadside.

> http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/pitt389.jpg
	This is the same car as was sitting behind 1730 when I photographed
them!  And the angle is almost identical buy my photo shows a *real--17*
immediately behind this one!

	So you say we met at SHJ - and then rode a trolleycar to Clearview?!?! 
Don't remember any of that - just remember taking the photos!  Don't
remember anyone talking to me - don't remember riding in your car.  I
strain trying to remember this and think I do - but think I do because
of persuasion, not because I actually remember.  This is embarrassing! 
You must have just gotten your license - strange I would ride with
someone who just got a license!!!  I usually drove to Pgh but must have
flown to avoid snow problems!
	It was January of 1977 when I received my call from SF-Muni and was
operating PCCs in Feb of 1977!!  Didn't know at the time that this would
be my last trip home to the Burgh!

	The ex-16 in this photo is signed for 42-Dormont here  --  I seriously
doubt it was signed as such when we boarded.  On the next trip outbound
the car probably went only as far as the Dormont wye so he set the signs
at this point for that trip.
	I have a much older photo of a car inbound at SHJ on the 44--47--48
that is signed for 50-Carson.  I would assume that the car is coming off
the 47-line and not the 44-48 as the route downtown for the 47 and 50
lines is the same.

> Ken J.
> My recollection may not be 100% accurate, but here it is.

> As I recall, I was at the south end of the tunnel snapping a shot of an outbound
> 1600 interurban repainted in a red/white/red "mod" paint scheme. The car was one of
> the "double enders." I turned to get a rear shot of the car and saw another fan
> snapping a shot of the car coming toward him. I approached the gentlemen and we
> began talking about this and that. An inbound green/white/green 1700 interurban
> came down the grade from the Overbrook line heading toward the tunnel. The fan I
> was with mentioned that the motorman was a guy named Charlie. He explained that the
> guy had slowed down with age, but that he was a real hot rodder in his day.

> We caught an outbound 42 Dormont 1600 in a yellow/white/yellow "mod" scheme. The
> car was sent all the way to Clearview Loop due to Christmas shopping and the
> approaching rush hour. The car was in a line up with 1730 and another 1700 painted
> up in green/white/green.  The fan and I entered the Mt. Lebanon parking garage and
> I drove him back to South Hills Junction. He wrote his name and address on a
> schedule (which I still have but probably won't access for a while.) He live in
> Waukegan, Illinois. I remember wondering why I never saw him on any CERA fan trips,
> or why I never ran in to him before at East Troy, IRM or Fox River.



James B. Holland

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