[Fwd: Thanks to Street Railway Photograpghers...]

[Fred Schneider]

And perhaps we should point out that Ed and I were out yesterday taking "now
pictures" to go with a series of more aged exposures that will appear in the
next Arden exhibit which opens this Spring. The location and not the trolley
is what impresses the visitor.



		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Edward H. Lybarger [mailto:twg at pulsenet.com]
		Sent:	Monday, March 06, 2000 11:04 AM
		To:	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
		Subject:	RE: [Fwd: Thanks to Street Railway
Photograpghers...]

		From day one in 1994, our exhibit photos at PTM have always
emphasized the
		scene, not the trolley (though there's often one present).
That's because
		the public needs to see things they may be familiar with,
rather than be
		shown the nuts and bolts of the trolley.

		-----Original Message-----
		From: owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
		[mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org]On Behalf Of
mrb190
		Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 10:39 AM
		To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
		Subject: Re: [Fwd: Thanks to Street Railway
Photograpghers...]


		I think what I was trying to say was that I don't see many
books out
		there ("Pittsburgh-Then & Now" and the recent book on the
"50's", being
		the exceptions) that have old photographs in them of the
locale, so the
		Trolley photographs often serve two purposes: to see the
cars, and the
		areas in which they ran.  My original comments were only
meant to be
		complimentary.

		Fred Schneider wrote:
		>
		> Is this a wonderful justification for just taking pictures
of streets?
		>
		> My Dad walked around Lancaster PA in the middle 1960s and
took eight
		> pictures at each downtown intersection.   Those negatives
have never been
		> printed but they are a delightful historical record which
I should make
		> certain winds up in the local historical society some day.
I've spent
		many
		> a day walking around the city just taking pictures of
buildings ... its
		> amazing how many we still have in Lancaster County that
were built when
		this
		> was a British colony.
		>
		> I guess what I'm trying to say is:  THERE'S A WHOLE LOT
MORE OUT THERE
		THAN
		> TROLLEYS.
		>
		>                 -----Original Message-----
		>                 From:   mrb190 [mailto:mrb190+ at pitt.edu]
		>                 Sent:   Sunday, March 05, 2000 11:16 PM
		>                 To:     pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
		>                 Subject:        [Fwd: Thanks to Street
Railway
		> Photograpghers...]
		>
		>                 (because of the difference between mrb190
and mrb190+;
		long
		> story, should
		>                 be fixed -- djb)
		>
		>                 I am still kind of new to this group, so
if this has been
		> said before,
		>                 please forgive the duplication of words...
		>
		>                 When I display streetcar photographs to
folks around here
		> who don't have
		>                 the same hobby-like interest in the cars
as I do, I often
		> hear the same
		>                 remarks:  "wow!  I remember that
building!"  or "Yes!  I
		> remember when
		>                 the avenue looked like that!"  or "Is that
what our street
		> used to look
		>                 like?"
		>
		>                 In short, to all of railway photographers,
past and
		present:
		> not only
		>                 have you recorded a terrific piece of
streetcar history,
		but
		> also the
		>                 surroundings.   I doubt if there are many
picture-takers
		out
		> there today
		>                 snapping as many pics on Fifth Avenue or
Penn Avenue or on
		> some urban
		>                 neighborhood street of  autos or buses
going by.  The
		> streetcar WAS an
		>                 intricate part of the street and made it
all the more
		> interesting enough
		>                 for photographers to spend a few more
dollars on film.   I
		> wonder how
		>                 many of you realized at the time that you
were capturing
		> more than just
		>                 the trolleys, but also the time and place
in which the
		cars
		> did their
		>                 jobs.   It's a kick to hear current Pitt
students who view
		> the photos in
		>                 the "Touring Pittsburgh By Trolley" book
say:   "The
		Towers
		> (student
		>                 housing) are in this picture!  That means
you had trolleys
		> running here
		>                 in the sixties!   What happened to them?"
The Towers
		were
		> apparently
		>                 pretty new, and I think they are still the
newest dorms on
		> campus, so
		>                 when you view this particular photo in the
"Touring..."
		> book, it does
		>                 seem like the cars were running down Fifth
just yesterday.
		>
		>                 So, again, THANKS!
		>
		>                 And speaking of photographs, can anyone
tell me where this
		> Roberta Hill
		>                 shot is located?
		>                 Ken, do you know?
		>
		>
http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/kjpgh213.jpg
		>
		>                 Matt