Pgh. Mail List -- 40-Mt..Washington Revival
brathke at juno.com
brathke at juno.com
Wed Mar 15 19:38:08 EST 2000
This may seem like an impossible dream, but I wouldn't let it die. Who
woulda thought that real trolleys would return to the streets of Dallas
30+ years after the rail was covered with asphalt. See <www.mata.org>.
The trick in Dallas was getting the local businesses along McKinney
Avenue to support (and help finance) the line which would help bring
visitors (customers) to their establishments. A big does of "Dallas
Can-Do" spirit - and a smaller amount of politics - also helped.
At least one of the MATA motormen is originally from the Pittsburgh area.
Bob 3/15
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:51:33 -0500 mrb190 <mrb190+ at pitt.edu> writes:
>It sure is worth a try! Who do I write first? City Council? County?
>
>Jim Holland wrote:
>>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> This can be a very serious matter which takes root right
>here!
>>
>> Market Street Railway in San Francisco is a reincarnation of
>the actual
>> railway by that name and was anathema to the Muni, or vice-versa!
>>
>> At any rate, one might consider the reincarnated MSR
>anathema to Muni
>> for they actually forced (and forced may be an extremely mild term)
>> Muni's hand to get the Trolley Festivals going which in turn led to
>the
>> F-MARKET. The latter probably would not exist today were it not for
>> MSR.
>> MSR had some well-heeled participants who had power in such
>places as
>> Bechtel which also helped.
>> There may be people on this list who have the contacts,
>expertise,
>> time, information, experience, -- all the above, any one of the
>above,
>> or a combination of the above or know people with such -- and all
>it
>> takes is someone with organizational skills to get something going.
>It
>> is definitely within the realm of possibility -- whether or not it
>is
>> probable depends more on a positive attitude to face the multitude
>of
>> challenges such a project would bring.
>> Organization is needed with a definite detailed plan so
>something
>> concrete could be offered to the public. And with the internet,
>getting
>> support might be relatively easy.
>>
>> San Francisco was fortunate in that much of the track was in
>place but
>> a major rebuilding was necessary. With Arlington double tracked and
>> possibly the connection to Carson and Smithfield still available,
>Pgh
>> has a very good start. Still think it would be a good idea to have
>a
>> viaduct over the current SHJ to avoid conflict with regular
>operations
>> but it would be much cheaper just to cut into the current tracks to
>go
>> to Mt.-Washington. The whole line needn't be rebuilt; just the key
>> inner part. Cars could be based at a small yard near SHJ.
>> San Francisco had the fortune of being standard gauge so
>cars from
>> around the world could be brought in. Any historic operation in
>Pgh.
>> would need to be PA-broad gauge to use Arlington.
>> So just in this short space we can pick up some of the
>challenges that
>> will need to be faced and also realize that for every person who
>> supports this, there could be several who will oppose it.
>> Community support is needed - certainly the business
>association of
>> Mt.-Washington could see the advantages; understand that is a very
>nice
>> *gas-light* district with horse and buggy. Need some trolleycars to
>> complement those carriages.
>> Don't dismiss this as a pipe-dream - anything is possible -
>it will be
>> made more probable as people participate.
>>
>> James B. Holland
>> ------- -- ---------
>> Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo), June of 1949 -- June of
>1953
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