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mrb190
mrb190+ at pitt.edu
Tue May 2 10:02:34 EDT 2000
What street just outbound of Kennywood was cobblestone? Was this
Duquesne Blvd? Do you know what street(s) the carline travelled after
passing Kennywood?
Matt
Jim Holland wrote:
>
> Greetings!
>
> I don't know if it is a record but the 68-McKeesport via Kennywood line
> was abandoned 1958.09.15 and the dual tracks in cobble stone streets
> just outbound of Kennywood were still there in 1984 -- my last time in
> the Burgh!!! The street was in excellent condition!
>
> I am very much interested in what is still visible of PRCo thru track
> and overhead, property and structures, and am enjoying these discussions
> although I am not able to read most posts all the way thru. Is there
> someone who has time available that would be willing to compile this
> information - possibly by line / route - so it would be easier to
> identify? I would hope to return to Pgh. someday and would like to see
> what remains - and reminisce for myself as well!
>
> THANKS!!!!!!!
>
> brathke at juno.com wrote:
>
> > The record for post-abandonment longevity of remnants may be the DCT line
> > in Georgetown which was abandoned in 1962, but both the tracks and street
> > signs remained in place until at least 1978. See the photos I took in
> > November, 1978:
>
> > http://gelwood.railfan.net/other/lightrail/dct-track-a.jpg
>
> > http://gelwood.railfan.net/other/lightrail/dct-track-b.jpg
>
> > I was in Washington last week, but didn't have time to go over to
> > Georgetown to see if any of this was still there.
>
> > Bob 5/1
>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > On Mon, 01 May 2000 11:27:52 -0400 mrb190 <mrb190+ at pitt.edu> writes:
> > > At the intersection of Penn Ave. and Main street where the 77/54 and 88
> > > Frankstown met, the wiring remained in tact almost two years after
> > > abandonment. In fact, while the 77/54 rails were being removed from
> > > Main street, the wiring remained from Penn all the way up to the
> > > connection with 87 Ardmore on Liberty. The 77/54 rails were ripped
> > > out
> > > while the 88 still ran in 1966.
>
> > > Anyway, it was kind of strange to still see the complex intersection
> > > wiring come in to view as one climbed Main Street, from Butler, to Penn
> > > Ave., only see that it lost connections at both ends on Penn Ave.
>
> > > I also recall that the wire cutters weren't much for finishing the job
> > > too quickly as they'd remove just the wire first, then some days or
> > > weeks later, they'd take the suspension wires and -what do you call
> > > them- frogs?? off later. At one point on Penn Ave., I remember seeing
> > > a long bar-like gadget instead of frog, flipping back and forth in high
> > > winds. Those long bar-like things ---> what were they, contact points
> > > to let a station know if a car had passed that point?
>
> > > I was too young? too shy? too afraid of doing something illegal? at
> > > the time, but at the corner of Penn & Main, there was a cut suspension
> > > wire, with a clipped on car stop sign, hanging all the way down a
> > > utility pole, just in reach -- but I never took it---the car stop sign,
> > > that is. Hmmm...
>
> > > Guess it's probably futile wondering where I could get one at this
> > > time.
>
> > > Jim Holland wrote:
>
> > > A classic case was Los Angeles. Within weeks after abandonment the
> > > streets were tarred - not dug up to remove rails, simply tarred - but
> > > the wire was still up. Saw this myself after I got out of boot in June
> > > of 1963.
>
> James B. Holland
>
> Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo), 1940 -- 1950
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