Pittsburgh Railways PCCs/Toronto PCCs

Jim Holland PGHPCC at pacbell.net
Sun Oct 1 15:19:07 EDT 2000


Greetings!

	Excellent observation, Ken!  Too bad you didn't think of it earlier so
you could scoot under the car to check when you were there for the Drake
festivities!!::>>)))

Other interurban evidence:::::::
	- sealed mounting holes for the spare trolley pole
		on the trolley cowl.  Doubt that new metal
		would be installed here.
	- sealed mounting holes for retriever below the windows.
		1613 had the trolley catcher reinstalled
		above the windows in the latter 1950s -
		don't know why.  Trouble is, this location
		for retriever could receive new metal -.
		or mucho bondo!!::>>)))
	- mounting holes for FM-radio on operators console.
	- mounting holes for Ohmer fare register.
	- Don't remember history of 1640 but if she never
		received roof light and holes for such were
		sealed, this would be more evidence for 1613!

> "Edward H. Lybarger" wrote:

> > 1799 2nd was 1613, not 1640, according to some of the shop people at the
> > time of the rebuild.  We have carried it as such at PTM, but I can't tell
> > you absolutely which was which.

> Kenneth Josephson wrote:

> Let's not forget that 1613 once carried a pilot. There should be evidence of
> the pilot mounting  (holes, bracing) under the front. 1640 was a city car its
> entire life. Wouldn't a careful inspection underneath show whether or not the
> car is really 1613 or 1640? What about evidence within the car (opening rear
> window, luggage rack mounting location) or evidence of the spare trolley pole
> mounting or horn?

> Ken J.

James B. Holland

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