Interurbans

[Greg King]

Yeah, I can access it now (must have been all the Olympics traffic), but
still can't find that Electric railroads secttion Jim mentioned.

Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Edward H. Lybarger <twg at pulsenet.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 11:13 PM
Subject: RE: Interurbans


> I just tried it and it worked perfectly.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> [mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org]On Behalf Of Greg King
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 10:37 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: Re: Interurbans
>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Just tried that URL and it said, no page found, can you check that address
> please, maybe it's just super busy?
>
> Greg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Holland <PGHPCC at pacbell.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 9:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Interurbans
>
>
> > Greetings!
> >
> > PTM (http://www.pa-trolley.org/) has a reprint of the July 1952 issue
> > of *Electric Railroads* which details the Charleroi and Washington
> > interurbans as well as the Washington and Donora local lines.  This is
> > the source of my info.
> > M-A-N-Y  on the list are members of PTM.  Ed Lybarger is the Archivist
> > for the Museum and is a walking encyclopedia on West Penn (I believe his
> > favorite) and PRCo.
> >
> > Greg King wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jim,
> >
> > > Thanks for that, wish there was a publication on those lines.
> >
> > > Greg
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jim Holland <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
> > > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 1:06 PM
> > > Subject: Interurbans
> >
> > > > Greetings!
> >
> > > > The 1600--series PCC interurbans were in service by mid--1948,
> approx.,
> > > > and the 1700s in very early 1949.  It wasn't until November 1950
that
> > > > both 3700s and 3800s were removed from service.  Scrapping was as
much
> > > > as several years later.
> > > > So the Brill and  *old*  St.-Louies (the PCCs are St.-Louies, too!)
> did
> > > > not last to the end of interurban service in Washington County, but
it
> > > > was as close to the end as possible - just 2.75-years shy!
> >
> > > > You know that Charleroi had local service as well to Donora.  There
> was
> > > > a loop at Riverview which had a leg added to it to make it a
> combination
> > > > loop and wye.  This was the northern terminal of the Donora local
and
> > > > the wye could be used by rush hour trippers from Pgh.
> > > > The interurbans thru Charleroi to Roscoe and the Donora local shared
> > > > trackage from Riverview on south through Monongahela on single track
> in
> > > > street with passing sidings.  Not long before Black Diamond
Junction,
> > > > the line was double track.  The interurbans cut uphill across
country
> at
> > > > the Junction while the Donora local was side of the road for a good
> > > > distance and then in the street as it essentially followed the
> > > > Monongahela River.
> > > > In Donora, there was a wye that was called a freight terminal.  This
> > > > was not used by the local cars which continued several blocks
further
> to
> > > > a stub end, on street terminal.  But for a period during the 1920s,
> > > > every other interurban came to Donora and wyed so the people of
Donora
> > > > had hourly through service without transfer to Pittsburgh as did the
> > > > people of Roscoe and Charleroi.  Thus, it was a 30-minute headway
> north
> > > > of Black Diamond Jct to Pgh and return.
> >
> > > Greg King wrote:
> >
> > > Is anybody/everybody on the list a member at Arden, I would like to
chat
> > > off-list about it if someone would like too.
> >
> > James B. Holland
> >
> >         Pittsburgh  Railways  Company  (PRCo),   1930  --  1950
> >     To e-mail privately, please click here: mailto:pghpcc at pacbell.net
> > N.M.R.A.  Life member #2190; http://www.mcs.net:80/~weyand/nmra/
> >
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