Ed's back! -- but gone again - faster than a speeding bullet

[Edward H. Lybarger]

Orange paint faded rather quickly in the noxious Western Pennsylvania
atmosphere of the day.  When there was money, cars were painted every 3-4
years.  Our memories are from years when there wasn't money, so the effect
was enhanced on some cars.

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
[mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org]On Behalf Of Dietrich,
Robert J.
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:43 AM
To: 'pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org'
Subject: RE: Ed's back! -- but gone again - faster than a speeding
bullet


Fred:

I don't think the yellow cars were ever yellow, that's just what we called
them.  But then I've been known to be wrong before.

Based on all the pictures I've seen I can't distinguish between the color of
a West Penn car and a PRCo low-floor car.  I have one of each and except for
the fact that they were painted years apart from different batches of paint,
even different brands, they are essentially the same color.  All that
explanation because I have a picture posted of the WP car and not the PRCo
car-- http://www.voicenet.com/~dietrich/P7280042.JPG

I start with about half a bottle of Poly-Scale Traction Orange and add black
until it looks like the shade in the pictures, or my mind.  I don't remember
how much black but I think it should be measured in drops.  I think I
stirred up some black on a craft stick then stirred that into the orange.
Be sure to test the color on a scrap of something, don't depend on the color
of the paint in the bottle.  You want to see it after it has dried.

The good part is that even if you don't like the results of painting the car
you can always over-spray thin black and grime and dirt to make it a little
more utilized.

Good luck.
Bob

P.S.  I think you can add drops of white to get fading but I never tried it.

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Fredbruhn at aol.com [mailto:Fredbruhn at aol.com]
Sent:	Wednesday, September 20, 2000 6:43 PM
To:	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject:	Ed's back! -- but gone again - faster than a speeding bullet

It was great of Ed to pass on some answers as he flew through town.

Jim - I'll volunteer cherry from the photo I have as the color of the 700
interior window supports.

Now here are my couple of questions -

On page 16 of CERA Trolley Sparks 89 - West Penn there is a photo credited
to
the late G. Krambles showing a neat neat freight terminal that would make a
fantastic model.  On the front is painted "West Penn Freight Station" and it

is described as being in Uniontown.  Where was it?     Was it on North
Beeson
Avenue?

Second question -  When the new Uniontown terminal was built was all the
street trackage on Main St. pulled up right away, or maybe better said was
the trackage taken out of service, either by pulling down the wire, welding
turnouts, etc.

Ed - do we assume all the sidings used spring switches and the cars routed
to
let the operator pull/push the signal levers

Next, is the G.C. Murphy store, ex WP terminal on Main St. still standing?

I'll gladly accept help from anyone on these.

Jim -  Yes, I've heard the low floor cars referred to as yellow cars and
orange cars too.  The photos also show hues from the rich bright orange
(the
nice restoration job on 3756 for the bi-centenial) to several photos in
Penn.
Trolleys III of almost yellow.
So, has anyone experimented with a Poly S color yet to save me some time, or

is it traction orange I start with.   My lighting is mostly florescent with
some spots to throw shadows in one direction.    I actually like the more
faded orange tone but can't
bear to have a car that looks like its at the scrappers door.

Thanks for the help

Fred Bruhn