Pittsburgh Railways PCCs/Toronto PCCs

[Edward H. Lybarger]

The 2nd terminal didn't become Murphy's, just the site.  Recent ARM focus
was largely steam railroads, which are a huge yawn to me.  I was off looking
at 1850s anthracite company towns during some of the meeting (which I got to
2 days late, anyway!).  I have seen IRM's Pullman PCC at about its nadir;
they rot a lot more completely and hold the crud in far better than anything
St. Louis built.

Ed

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I have not kept current on NORM's situation (Northern Ohio Railway Museum)
and Ed Lybarger probably has a feel from the recent Assoc. meeting.
However,
the ex
Cleve, ex TTC, ex Shaker cars sat outside for quite a few years with
minimual
protection and did not hold up well.  The IRM experience would probably be
repeated in restoring one at NORM.  Then they had a fire (arson I think)
that
took care of
some cars.  NORM started one long siding and all their equipment was stored
on that siding.  They now have a nice piece of property across a county or
township road and have plans (or have started) construction of a barn.  The
last time I was up there they had their SHRT cars, plus others that I
understand had been sold and they were storing, plus some of the airporters
from the original rapid order and the Pittsburgh PCC on the property where
the barn is to go.

In general they have their work cut out for them.

I am glad I didn't mislead you on Toronto, although I had a fact or two
wrong.  The city is clean and you will see a few professionally challenged
folks walking Yonge
St. north of Queen at night, I still have no worries in walking.  There is a
decent book store just off Yonge north of Dundas about one block.  Can't
remember the name but they have a decent transportation section.  Its in
sort
of an alley type street.  You will find it.

Ed L - thanks for the information on the West Penn frt. terminal.   I
guessed
right but now that I know it is existing that in itself is almost worth a
trip back.  I'm almost finished with Patches by the good doctor, and in
there
is a reference to the #2 passenger terminal which became G.C. Murphy.  He
says it is also in use and names the current owner.  I'll post it as soon as
I dig it out.

Fred Bruhn