Greg - our new down-under member

[Tom Phillips]

Greg:

The 1700 PCC's were placed in interurban service upon their arrival
in early 1949. The 3700's and 3800's were removed from service about
November 1950 and placed in dead storage at Ingram where they were
scrapped in early 1952 -- none were saved and no bodies exist.  I
can't comment on the 3700's but I believe that 2, possibly 3, of the
3800's were scrapped in the late 40's.  The 3750's continued to see
occasional tripper service until circa 1953 when they, too went to
the junkman (except for 3756 now at PTM).

I had heard that one of the older operators (and PTM member) had the
entire front end of a 3800 at his home -- but I can't corroborate
this -- if so, he most probably would have donated it by now to PTM
which, if so, has it squirreled away somewhere.  Frankly, I believe
the whole thing is just a fable -- I would like to have taken some
measurements from it!

I have been an Associate Member of Arden since 1960, a Member since
1982, and a revenue Operator there since 1990.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
[mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org]On Behalf Of Greg King
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 10:41 PM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: Re: Greg - our new down-under member


Hi Tom,

Thanks, I'll look forward to seeing those, would there be any of the older
3700 type plans around? Did any of the 3700's last till the end of the
3800's and, how long after the PCC's arrived did the last of the 37 and
3800's go, in other words, did last till the end of the interurban lines
and, did any of the bodies get saved (as sheds etc., even). When i get
around to building myself a Jones car, it will be one of the D/E types as
used in Washington (as my PCC is signed for Washington), I like the idea of
the local operation at the end of the Interurban line.

Is anybody/everybody on the list a member at Arden, I would like to chat
off-list about it if someone would like too.

Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Phillips <tsquare at toad.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: Greg - our new down-under member


> Greg:
>
> I am a also a fan (and pseudo-student, if you will) of PRCo's
> 3800's, they being the first streetcar that I remember from
> my days as a youngster in Charleroi, PA (more about that in the
> future).  Therefore, be advised that there are some serious
> errors on Paul Moore's drawing.
>
> I have been working on a set of drawings suitable for scaling
> for modelling purposes, now almost finished.  Look for them on
> the web in the next few weeks.
>
> Tom Phillips
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> [mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org]On Behalf Of Dietrich,
> Robert J.
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 8:09 AM
> To: 'pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org'
> Subject: RE: Greg - our new down-under member
>
>
> Greg:
>
> Back in the 1940s Paul Moore drew plans for quite a number of trolley
cars,
> PRCo 3800 included.  I copied his plans and posted them to the East Penn
> Traction Club web page -- http://www.eastpenn.org/moore.html.  I would us
> these plans to build a model of my own but you may want to research
further
> before building a production model.  I've been told that Paul's plans were
> not always accurate.
>
> If you make these in HO the price will determine how many I will buy.
>
> Regards.
> Bob
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg King [mailto:tramway at one.net.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 5:53 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: Re: Greg - our new down-under member
>
> Hi Fred,
>
> Thanks for thie nice welcome and info, if you can get me some plans of
those
> cars, I'll have a look at them, would also need a likely number to be
> ordered, the 3700's were nice too, I'd like to get a set of plans for them
> to look at as well.
>
>