W. Pa. Fables

[brathke at juno.com]

The recent post (below) comments on a trolley legend that can't be
confirmed.  I have another:

I recall a small, old diner  that was located in Zelienople on the west
side of the main street (U.S. Route 19) toward the north edge of its
shopping area.  I was never inside this diner, but around 1960 one of the
PTM (PERC at that time) members told me that the diner was a former
Butler interurban, and that he had purchased the car's roll sign assembly
from the diner owner, and he had refurbished and rewired it.  This member
was gone from the museum organization by 1964, and I've never been able
to verify his claim (I don't even know if Butler interurbans had roll
signs).  Has anyone seen such a roll sign assembly at PTM or elsewhere?

Also, in 1961 I purchased a railway marker lamp from an antique shop in
Butler.  The store owner claimed it came from a trolley that ran in
Butler.  Heritage didn't matter to me since it was an old rail item and
the price was right ($5).  It looks like a 1920's marker lamp that could
have been used on a trolley or a steam railroad, but it has no rail owner
identification on it.   I still have this lamp, and also a similar marker
lamp stamped "Lake Shore & Michigan Southern" (the LS&MS became part the
NYC RR back then), so I know that both lamps are probably from the
1910-30 era.

Can anyone point me to photos of Butler interurbans?

Bob 9/30

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On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 01:17:25 -0400 "Tom Phillips" <tsquare at toad.net>
writes:
> Greg:
 

> I had heard that one of the older operators (and PTM member) had the
> entire front end of a 3800 at his home -- but I can't corroborate
> this -- if so, he most probably would have donated it by now to PTM
> which, if so, has it squirreled away somewhere.  Frankly, I believe
> the whole thing is just a fable -- I would like to have taken some
> measurements from it!

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