[PRCo] Re: locale- 1764

[John Swindler]

>From: HRBran99 at aol.com
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: locale- 1764
>Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:11:23 EDT
>
>In a message dated 4/20/01 1:26:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>j_swindler at hotmail.com writes:
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>To further add to the mystery, a photo in "Touring Pgh by Trolley" (Harold 
>A. Smith, 1992) has a photo taken from the opposite direction at Jane 
>Street Loop. The line pole in the Daves photo (right/foreground) is not 
>visible in the Smith book photo. The only pole prior to the trolley track 
>coming in from the right is two houses from that track. Thus, the photo on 
>Daves website would have some of the last house showing in order to have 
>the line pole showing. Also, the 'car stop' sign is not showing in the 
>Smith book photo.
>Both photos would have been taken in the same era inasmuch as the Smith 
>book photo shows PAT "stick-on" decals on the car shown in that photo. 
>However, with all of this the location still remains a mystery.
>
>HrB
>


No longer a mystery, as the picture on page 51 of Smith's book confirms the 
location as an inbound 64 car on Coal St. at Jane St.  The car stop sign in 
this picture:


http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/rhp194.htm


is visible in the Smith photo at roof line of 1547, directly above the 'H' 
in Hamilton.  Also see configeration of wires on pole line.  By standing at 
the curb, Roberta lined up the poles in her view.

For comparison, this view at Euclid and Bunkerhill terminal of 71/73 does 
not include a carstop sign and configeration of wires on pole line is 
different.


http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/pitt244.jpg


Not helping is that both locations have headway recorder on inbound side of 
line pole before the switch, and in both cases, track area is paved with 
'Belgium blocks' and macadam to curb.   Also, both include a curb cut, in 
Roberta's case for older home next to Jane St. 'loop'.  (the garage was 
behind the house)

Also supporting the Jane St. location, Coal St. was level for first 2-3 
blocks from this location, then encountered a one block grade to rise up to 
Rebecca St.  That matches the terrain in Hill's photo.

John







>PS-Settled in Cleveland................May the state of Flori-duh sink 
>slowly
>into the ocean.
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