Your questions about Cincinnati cars

[Fred W. Schneider III]

1.  West Penn's Huff Barn faced south.  I've never seen a southward
facing picture to help determine how long the barn lead was after the
final switch.   

2.  Only one car from York and one from Lancaster are operable.  York
Railways 163, as a recreation of a summer cottage, is at Railways to
Yesterday.  Conestoga Transportation 236 is owned by the state and is
housed by the Manheim Historical Society.  The former is a double-truck
Brill curved-side car that was used in interurban (suburban service),
generally on routes other than Hanover.  The latter is a double-door,
30'-1" four wheel Birney car, one of 41 that CTC assigned to city routes
and to one local line in Columbia, PA.  

3.  I don't think York had any Cincinnati cars; they did have a flock of
curved side cars from Brill. I was told by Conestoga people that those
were knock offs of Cincinnati cars and that Brill lost a suit over them.
I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the information.

4.  While most Lancaster cars were built by Brill, there were some early
Lamoken products (at least 10 with Daft hardware in 1890), 10 cars from
two designs from St. Louis in 1894, at least one four-wheel open car
that came second hand from Phila. & West Chester that was also built by
St. Louis, and, as you perhaps wanted to hear, a whole flock of
Cincinnati cars.  The Cincinnati cars included 138-139 - eight wheel
city cars with Baldwin type M maximum-derailment trucks - the cars came
in 1914 and were scrapped in 1939-40 but had pretty much been idle after
1933.  There were two express motors (321 and 322) that Cincinnati built
in 1917; one became a portable rotary and lasted until 1945, the other
was used for general utility work from 1932 (end of freight service)
until 1947.  We had six identical wood double-truck suburban cars built
in two lots by Cincinnati (47-49 in 1911 and 50-51 in 1912) ... all were
in daily use until 1933 and then in extra car status until 1938.  One
was wrecked (49) in 1934, one was scrapped in 1939 (50), three were
torched in 1940 (48, 51, and 52), and 47 hung on until 1942, possibly as
a school car.  Lancaster's first semi-steel car came from Cincinnati in
1913; number 53 figured in a corn-field meet in 1923 that killed two men
(the conductor returned to service the same day that 53 came back out of
the shops and he drew it again, first trip out).  Car 53 was on the
property until September 26, 1947.  Finally, and this is what you really
wanted to know, we had five Cincinnati curved side cars (65-69) that
were delivered in the summer of 1924 and were on the property until
final closure in September 1947, either in operation or being scavenged
for parts.  The company fleet reached a peak of 165 vehicles in the
1920s; everything not otherwise mentioned came from Brill or its
Stephenson and Wason subsidiaries.  For what it was worth, both in
mileage and fleet size, this was the sixth largest property in the
Commonwealth. 


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