1713

[Edward H. Lybarger]

Steve Kuznetzov was involved in this with his ex-wife's family.  I don't
know all the gory details.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
[mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org]On Behalf Of Greg King
  Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 5:34 PM
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  Subject: Re: 1713


  HI,

  Who was/is Power SemiConductor and is this the same as PSM technoligies
and, why did they use them and then scrap them, do any of those still
servive (ie 1705, not listed as scrapped)?

  Greg
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: John F Bromley
    To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
    Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 5:09 AM
    Subject: Re: 1713


    Ray Corley maintains a listing of all preserved PCC cars.  The latest
copy I have from him, however, is dated September 1998, and he is sometimes
dependent on the generosity of others for data, so here's a starting point
and who can add to it or correct it:

    1138  Duhhh!  Acq 3/61

    1440  Seashore  Acq 6/68  (from here on I'll drop the "acq"

    1467  PTM 6/68

    1605  Ed Mitchell, Uniontown 9/72, scrapped 6/94

    1626  Ed Mitchell 9/72

    1632
    1650

    1661 all as 1626

    1703  Viuntage Electric Streetcar, Windber, PA 1991 or 92

    1705  Power Semiconductor. New Castle PA 11-95

    1711  Duhhh again, 4/90

    1713  Penn-Ohio Elec Rwy Assoc, Ashley PA 5/98

    1716  Power Semiconductor, E Pittsburgh 8-91, scrapped after fire Mar
7-95

    1718  as 1716

    1721  PSM Technologies 6-90, scrapped 5-96

    1723  as 1716

    1724  Historical Soiciety of Western PA, Pittsburgh, 6-95

    1726  as 1716

    1728  Ed Miller for Penn-Ohio Electric, Ashley OH 6-95 (Corley has 10-95
bracketed, don't know why)

    1730  PSM Technologies, E Pittsburgh 6-90, scrapped 5-96

    1734  Cincinnati St Rwy Inc 10-91, sale later rescinded and sold to PSM
Technologies 11-95, scrapped 5-96

    1736  PSA, New Castle PA 11-95 (perhaps another aborted sale top CSR
Inc)

    1737  Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 11-95

    1738  Vintage Elec, Windber PA 1991 or 1992

    1741  as 1738

    1745  Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 3-98

    1748  as 1716

    1750  as 1738

    1754  as 1738 but one record shows sold to CSR Inc in 7-94 - confusion
here.

    1761  to CSR Inc, Cincinnati OH 7-94 for restoration as CSR 1175 (oh boy
that's a good one) but scrapped after 3-97 flood.

    1764  as 1734

    1766  as 1734

    1771  as 1738

    1772  Ohio Railway Museum, Worthington OH 6-90 (there you go, Ken)

    1773  PSA, NEw Castle PA 12-05

    1788 II ex-1639 Ed Miller and Dave Buechler 3-95, acquired from Kenova
RR Museum, WV who got it in 1991, originally sold to Pittsburgh History &
Landm,arks Foundation 1987 and stored at Arden briefly, now to go to
Penn-Ohio Electric Railway Assn for restoration as 1639 (whewww!! , that
wore me out)

    1794 II ex-1669  Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 6-91, body only, apparently
car SFS 4-84, don't know interim history

    1797 II ex-1644, Northern Ohio RR Museum, Medina OH 12-86, for
restoration back to 1644

    1799 II ex-1613 according to Corley but my list shows ex-1640 (OK guys,
who's right?  Should be a no brainer for everyone but us frozen Canucks),
PTM 7-87

    1976 ex-1784 II ex-1603, Ron Jedlicka, Harbor Hills OH 12-86

    4002  PSA, new Castle PA 3-98

    4003  Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 3-98

    4006  Ron Jedlicka, Pataskala OH (on display at Columbus OH last we
heard) 5-98

    4010  as 4003

    4011  Ron Jedlicka, Pataskala OH (to Buckeye Lake, Harbor Hills) 5-98

    4012 ex-4000  as 1976.

    So, let's have the corrections, all you fanatics!

    John Bromley
      -----Original Message -----
      From: Kenneth Josephson
      To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
      Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 12:10 PM
      Subject: Re: 1713


      I do know that Pittsburgh PCC 1644 is there. It is in a mod
yellow/white/yellow scheme, but with its original painted on.
      Charlie Brown has suggested that a definitive roster of preserved and
privately owned Pittsburgh cars be put together as a reference for the rest
of us. We all know some of these cars will change hands again or wind up
scrapped, but if we can put together a list now, it would simply need an
annual or bi-annual update to remain accurate. It could be included in the
Trolley Fare once a year.

      Comments?    Ken J.

      Fredbruhn at aol.com wrote:

        Who's on first?
        Now I'm confused.  If 1713 was never at Worthington, is there a 1700
class
        there now?  Or did Ed's car just stop by on its way to whereever it
is stored
        now.  And I agree with Mr. Lybarger, it must be the car at Ashley.

        I seem to remember Worthington getting an ex Cincinnati/ex TTC car
with hopes
        of restoring it.  It was in bad shape, of course outside.  Then I
heard they
        cut it up and saved what they could - trucks, or whatever.  Can
anyone verify
        this story.

        Fred

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