[PRCo] Re: CHARLEROI // WASHINGTON Car Stops
John Swindler
j_swindler at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 2 10:07:25 EDT 2001
But Jim, what about route 36 Fairhaven??? <gg>
>Jim Holland listed:
>
>
>Good Morning!!
>
> The discussion about the Bethel Church trestle showed differences in Car
>Stops in both name and location on various maps. Obviously, as time moves
>on, population density increases and stops are added.
>
> The 1963 Roy G. Benedict map shows stops familiar to all of us.
>
> The Linear--Map I mentioned shows distances between sidings (apparently
>measured to the center of the siding) or distances between key points on
>double track, the capacity of the sidings, the times that cars are due at
>the sidings in each direction (outbound of Wash.-Jct. only), additions or
>removal of trackage and date, Car Stops, location of
way-side phones, etc. The track diagram for both interurbans starts at
Boggs and goes to Roscoe on the Charleroi line and to Tylerdale on the
Washington line. It shows the addition of Simmons and Drake Loops in 1953
as well as two additional sidings on Overbrook in early 1954.
>
> Because of photo data, I know that Mesta Stop existed in 1950 but I don't
>know when it was added because the Linear--Map does not show this stop.
>Apparently, the map was not used to keep stops current. So I am going to
>assign an arbitrary date of *1940* to the Linear--Map.
>
> The first column below shows Car Stops as they are listed on the
>1940--Linear--Map; the second column shows name changes and//or additions
>on the 1963 Roy G. Benedict map. A double Asterisk (**) indicates stops
>with wayside phones; while the PCC interurbans were equipped with on-board
>phones from 1948 (1600s) to 1953, the older equipment did not have these
>phones.
>
Just for fun, have added the list of stops appearing in the PSC Complaint
Docket 1571, City of Pittsburgh vs Pittsburgh Railways, which pertains to
the "elimination of certain car-stops." co.
The final ruling, issued August 19, 1918, states that: "the Pittsburgh
Railways Company, respondent, IS HEREBY ORDERED: On and after September 1,
1918, to so change the method of operating its cars on the following routes
that cars will stop for receiving and discharging passengers at and only at
the following designated points, to wit:"
There are a couple cases where I suspect the PSC transcribed/typeset the
stop name incorrectly, such as McNary/McNavy and McChain/McChance. So now
who wants to add the OFFICIAL PAT list of stops of more recent vintage???
>**-- 1940 --** **-- 1963 --** **--1918--**
>
> O--V--E--R--B--R--O--O--K
>
>Boggs** Boggs Stop
>Morse Steps Morse Steps
> McKinley Park McKinley Park
>Siding-#One** (Bon Air) Bon Air No. 1 Siding
>Edgebrook Avenue Reflectorville
>Smith** Smiths
>Oak** Oak Station
>South Bank South Bank
>Central
>Inglewood
>Overbrook Blvd. Overbrook
>Frederick Street** Fairhaven
>Parris Paris
>Elwyn** Elwyn
>Cretestone
>Cooley** Coolys
> Havelock
>Mine #Two
>Linden Grove Grove
> Poplar Avenue
>Castle Shannon** Castle Shannon Village
> Mt.Lebanon Jct. Mt. Lebanon Jct
>Martin Villa
>St. Ann's St. Ann's Sch St. Ann’s Church
> Village
>Smithton Smithon
> Substation
>Washington Jct.** Washington Jct.
>
> C--H--A--R--L--E--R--O--I
>
> Mine #Three Mine No. 3
>Hillcrest Webers
>Lindermer Lindemer Lindemans
>Brightwood** Brightwood
>Lytle Lytle
> Mesta
>Bethel Church Bethel Road
> McDonnell
>Latimer** Red Tiles
>Boyer Boyer’s
>Logan Logan’s
>King's School Kings School
>Library Acres Library Acres
>Leonard Berryman’s
>West Library** Library Sub-Sta.
>Hicks Hicks
>Simmons Simmons
> Simmons Loop
>Coal Bank Coal Bank
>Stewart Stewart
>Siebolts Sebolds
>McChain** McChance
>McNary** McNavy
>Union Valley** Union Valley
>Finley's Corner Finley’s Corner
>Finleyville Bank** Finleyville Bank
>Lanks** End double track
>Birkhammer Birkhammer’s
>Mingo Church Mingo Church
>Mingo School Mingo Switch
>Mingo Falls
>Crookham** Crookham Switch
>Jones Jones
>Harrison Harrison’s
>Star Mine Star Mine
>Distillery Riverview Distillery
>Madero Street
>Riverview Siding** Riverview Switch
>Madison Avenue Riverview School
>Riverview Substation** Riverview sub-sta.
>New Eagle Freight Spur
>Robinson Street Robinson St.
>Maple Street
>Poplar Street Hotel Noble
>Pine Street**
>Twelfth Streeth
>Tenth Street 10th St.
>Seventh Street** 7th St.
>Fifth Street 5th St.
>Third Street 4th St.
>Broad Street 2nd St.
>Easter Bridge
>First Street** 1st St.
>Railroad Crossing**
>Cemetary Street Cemetery St.
>Factory Street Factory St.
>Major Hollow
>Ival
>Warren Warne St.
>Sarah Sarah St.
>Nelson Nelson St.
>Black Diamond Jct.** Black Diamond Jct.
>Glendenning Glendenni
>Eldora Park** Eldora Park
>Eldora Eldora Land Office
>Summit** (Not a Car Stop) Eldora Summit
>Bridge #Three** Monessen Ferry
>Bridge #Two** Bridge No. 2
Bridge No. 2
>Bridge #One Bridge No. 1 (at Fallowfield and North Charleroi
>line)
>[NOTE: above 3-bridge stops shown south end of bridge]
>Lockview** Lockview
>Monessen Jct. Monessen Jct.
>Allenwood Allenwood
>West Side Barn
>Charleroi Car House** Charleroi Barn
>Tenth Street
>Ninth Street
>Eighth Street 8th St.
>Sixth Street
>Fifth Street 5th St.
>Fourth Street 4th St.
>Third Street 3rd St.
>Second Street
>First Street 1st St.
>Mapleview Siding** New Switch
>O'Neil O’Neills
>Belle Vernon Bridge Bellevernon
>Belle Vernon Siding** Bellevernon switch
>Deices
>Dunlevy Dunley
>Fitzgerald Fitzgerald
>White Barn White Barn switch
>Vesta Mine Vista Mines
>Lundy Lundy
>Clipper Landing
>Township Road
>Allenport Allenport Village
>Allenport School
>Allenport Siding Allenport switch
Maxwell
>Martin Martin
Elliott
>Stockdale Stockdale
>Marsh's Hall Marsh Hall
>Snyder Snyder
>Furlong Furlong
>Latta Latta
>Roscoe Roscoe Sta.
>Roscoe Loop Loop (end of line)
>
> W--A--S--H--I--N--G--T--O--N
>
Mine No. 3
>Whitlinger Whitlinger
> Garvey-Welton Trenhauser
>Santa Barbara
>Hultz Bethel Village Hultz
>Bethel Church Bethel Church
> Fort Couch
>Brookside** Brookside
>Walthers Walther Walthers
>Drake Drake
>Clifton Clifton
>Fife Shire Fifeshire
>Valley Farm
>Cremona** Cremona switch
>Orchard Orchard
>Paris Lake Montclair
>County Line** County line Sta.
>Edgebrook
>Bells Bells
>Thompsonville** Thompsonville
>Orr Siding** Orrs switch
>Center Church Center Church
>Brown Summit Browns Crossing
>Mount Blaine Mt. Blanc
>Cheesman's Cheesman’s
>Snodgrass Snodgrass
>Van Eman Van Emaus switch
>Pollock Pollock
>Murrayhill Murray Hill
>Morganza** Morganza
>Richfol Richfol
>College Street College St.
>Canonsburg Substation** (Not a Car Stop)
>Ashland Avenue** Ashland Ave.
>Eckhardt
>Greenside Ave Greenside Ave.
>Central Ave Central Ave.
>Jefferson Ave Jefferson Ave.
>Iron Street Iron St. switch
>Jutchinson St. Bluff St.
>Alexander Alexander
>Banfield** Banfield
>McNary Street
>Houston Corners Houston
>Henderson Moninger Henderson
Moninger
>Mill Seat Millseat
>Arnold Siding** Arnolds switch
>Arnold Stop Arnolds
>Holland McGovern No. 1
>McGovern McGovern No. 2
>Allison Allison
>Meadowlands Meadowlands switch
>Meadowlands Siding** Meadowlands
>Rich Hill Rich Hill
>McClain McClanes
>Enterprise
>County Home** (Present PTM site) County Home
>Fairgrounds Arden (fairground)
>Arden
>Children's Home Childrens Home
>Oak Grove** Oak Grove
>Wallace Wallace
>Tylerdale Car House** Washington Barn
>
Tylerdale switch (on Jefferson)
Woodland Ave. (on Jefferson)
Wylie Ave. (on Jefferson)
Wylie Ave. switch (on Jefferson)
3rd St. switch (on Jefferson)
Hall Ave. (on Jefferson)
Chestnut St. (on Jefferson)
Franklin St. (on Chestnut)
Main St. (on Chestnut)
Beau St. (on Main)
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