[PRCo] Re: WHAT IS Your Favorite Mod PAT Scheme???????

Harold Geissenheimer transitmgr at worldnet.att.net
Mon Jul 16 15:39:43 EDT 2001


Greetings to all

YES.  We tried several interesting changes.  The little table went with
a seat reversed.  We did the same thing with our matching 40' Extra
Special bus which included a large destination sign and the same
colors as the PCC.

The car was indeed modelled after Helsinki.  I had recently been there
and gave a photo of the Helsinki car to Phil Castellana which he used as
a model.  I hired Phil out of CMU and he was in charge of the PCC
rebuilding.  He has gone on to be President of a large consulting firm,
Lea+Elliott.
I visited with him at the recent people mover conference in San Francisco.

Some side lights.  The car had dual headlights from Cadillac.  The operator's
window was from a Flxible new look bus.

The overall purpose was to test new features for future transit vehicles.

Harold Geissenheimer

"Edward H. Lybarger" wrote:

> I seem to recall such a critter.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Bob
> Rathke
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 12:44 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: WHAT IS Your Favorite Mod PAT Scheme???????
>
> Didn't this first rebuild also have a small fold-down table between two of
> the
> seats?  Maybe there were two such tables on the car. For card playing or
> eating
> lunch?
>
> Bob 7/16/01
>
> ---------------------------
>
> John Swindler wrote:
>
> > The flat end design originated due to accident damage.  It was within the
> > capabilities of Tunnel car house maintenance personnel to fabricate.
> >
> > Of course, all of you have noted the similarity to Helsinki????
> >
> > John
> >
> > >From: Jim Holland <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
> > >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > >To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > >Subject: [PRCo] Re: WHAT  IS  Your  Favorite  Mod  PAT  Scheme???????
> > >Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:06:50 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >Good Morning!!
> > >
> > > > Kenneth Josephson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Now to get on topic. I'd like to learn more about the "Mod" paint
> > > > schemes. Who originated the three "caterpillar" stripes, the initial
> > > > reactions of the public and
> > >
> > >       Believe Harold Geissenheimer's Team produced the banded paint
> schemes
> > >of 1971 and later and initial public reaction was quite favorable, esp.
> > >when Sunburst Trolley 1730 hit the market.  The public could readily
> > >identify with the Name and Number of the car!!  Quite impressive!(:->)
> > >
> > >       1)--It is extremely difficult to pick a favorite, but because the
> > >Sunburst Trolley  --  1730  --  proclaimed itself so beautifully and
> > >positively in addition to making excellent PR amongst the public would
> > >have to be my favorite one.
> > >       There are so many different cars  --  paint schemes  --  to choose
> from
> > >it is very difficult to make a choice.
> > >       Somewhere right behind this would be the following
> three.......make it
> > >four:::::::
> > >
> > >       2)--Interurban 1776, ex-1616, because 1616 was so beautifully
> > >maintained by PRCo, because it is an interurban, because it is the first
> > >air-car completely overhauled, because of the BiCentennial paint
> > >scheme!!
> > >       3)--One of the double-ended interurbans because of a very definite
> > >attempt to keep service running during disruptions, the uniqueness of
> > >such an attempt for Pgh., and the good looks of the results.
> > >       4)--Car 1734  --  the Jolly Trolley  --  because it is  ({[pat]})
> > >poking fun at itself because of prior management calling railfans::
> > >"Trolley--Jollies!"
> > >       5)--Car 1976, the first flat-front car.  While I am an interurban
> > >afficionado first, I will defer to the first flat front because of its
> > >number and forward looking style!!
> > >
> > >       Choices 1 and 2 are firm  --
> > >               choices 3--5 could be in any order!!
> > >
> > > > A shot of the Tunnel Carhouse yards from the Overbrook right of way,
> > > > showing the yards jammed with these candy colored creations should
> have
> > > > graced the cover of C.E.R.A.'s "Rainbow of Traction" book.
> > >
> > >       Several color photos like this appeared in
> *Traction--&--Models*  --
> > >I submitted one, don't know who did the others!
> > >
> > >¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
> > >
> > >James B. Holland
> > >
> > >Holland  Electric  Railway  Operation
> > >     "O"--Scale  St.-Petersburg Trams Company
> > >         Trolleycars  &  "O"--Scale  Parts  mailto:pghpcc at pacbell.net
> > >     Pittsburgh  Railways  Company  (PRCo),   1930  --  1950
> > >N.M.R.A.  Life member #2190; http://www.mcs.net:80/~weyand/nmra/
> > >
> > >
> >
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