[PRCo] Re: Patronage of the Rail Lines (Was: Pittsburgh 7-Charles Street abandonment)

[Fred W. Schneider III]

I guess,  now that we don't charge capital costs to the operation, it
doesn't matter that peak hour patronage goes up and off peak drops... 
As I recall, that was the problem that killed the North Shore.  Had the
CNS&M survived a few more years (or the canals another 100 years), it
(they) would be here today. 

John Swindler wrote:
> 
> It's not part of his agenda.
> 
> >From: Kenneth Josephson <kjosephson at sprintmail.com>
> >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org,   "Paul M. Weyrich"
> ><paulwey at freecongress.org>
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: Patronage of the Rail Lines (Was: Pittsburgh 7-Charles
> >Street abandonment)
> >Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 20:06:53 -0700
> >
> >
> >I wonder way Mr. Wendell Cox ( a consultant some of our list members are
> >familar with) never discusses this when he's out there giving his
> >"objective" reasons to oppose light rail? I will be the first to say don't
> >build a line where it won't draw passengers. Mr. Cox, however, seems to
> >ignore the success stories.
> >
> >Ken J.
> >
> >Ed Tennyson wrote:
> >
> > >      To my knowledge, Routes  35, 36 and 37, now 42-S and 42-L  never
> > > lost passen- gers after Worfld War II when they carried 24,000 weekday
> > > passengers in 1953 after the interurbans were gone. Mid-day may have
> > > lost riders, offset by more com- muters in the peaks.
> > > (Riders were lost when buses replaced route 42/38 during reconstruction,
> > > but they came back when rail service was restored     Just before the
> > > Sixth Avenue Subway opened, ridership was still 24,000 but bus rdership
> > > had gne way down over the years.
> > > After the "T" got running right about 1988, ridership grew to 36,000 in
> > > 1991, but was sharply curtailed by a strike, then the shut down of the
> > > Overbrook Line in 1993. It is back to 24,000 again without Overbrook but
> > > it had been 24,000  with Overbrook before the subway
> > > If I remember anywthing wrong, I am sure you will remind me. I think I
> > > have it right.
> > > E d   T e n n y s o n
> >
> >
> 
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