[PRCo] Re: Rt. 49 and Brownsville Ave. single track

[John Swindler]

Concerning 46-Brownsville

Stumbled across Complaint Docket #1571 in the State Law Library today. It's 
dated 19 Aug 1918 and involves City of Pittsburgh, Pitts. Rys. and Public 
Service Commission.  Seems to be an attempt to reduce the number of car 
stops due to traffic congestion.  It's a listing of proposed car stops, by 
route, and how they will be identified, but unfortunately skips car stops 
that are previously covered under another route.  Thus short turns missing, 
and some routes only covered from major junctions.
Will xerox and try to talk Derrick into scanning and posting.  Some things 
falling into the 'gee, I never knew that' category include:


49 Beltzhoover operated via tunnel. (so a Jones car signed for 49 would be 
appropriate for a South Hills Junction module.  But apparently not 46)

306B East Carson along Brownsville Ave. to Allentown Dist.  That became 46 
Brownsville and eventually 49 Beltzhoover.

(from topic about a year ago) Bell Tavern was the stop on Warrington Ave. 
between Boggs and West Liberty Ave.

110 was Charles St. transfer.  had 5 stops

8 Perrysville Ave.  (9 not listed because stops listed under rt. 8)

23 was Sewickley
25 from O'Donovan's Corner through Shoenville Dist. to Pressed Steel Car 
Works.  (????)

211 Shoenville Shuttle Line

30-31 Loop

210 Shuttle on West Carson between Point Bridge and Smithfield St. Bridge 
(became 32)

55 Second Ave. to Homestead only
56 Second Ave. McKeesport
408 Glassport-McKeesport-Wilmerding (later 97)
409 McKeesport Shuttle (later Evans Ave.)

50 Carson (route to 30th St. as we knew it?)
52 Second Ave., 10th St. Bridge, Carson to 36th St. (yes, wasn't a shuttle)
302 Extension of 52 to Hays.  (so I should be able to find an abandonment 
petition-eventually)

413 From Glenwood Bridge at 2nd Ave, then up Monongahela River Valley to 
Brown's Bridge, then through Swissvale and Rankin to Fleet and Talbot in 
Rankin. (same thing as 302 to search for in PUC records)

77-92  Bloomfield loop.  Apparently out Penn/Liberty corridor to Bloomfield, 
then followed 77/54 routing through Bloomfield/Oakland and continued back to 
downtown.

83  Short turn on 82 around Herron Hill.

76 Hamilton (only to Tioga St.)

79-91  Forbes Shady Penn Loop.  (an East Liberty belt line)

80 West Braddock (Rankin) Bridge through Braddock to East Pittsburgh (sounds 
like outer end of 55)

81 Oakland District Loop (later Atwood)

Braddock Borough Shuttle Line (we know it as 63 Corry)

63 Forbes-Wilkinsburg-Ardmore Blvd-Trafford


And here's one for Jim:

36 Fairhaven

Also for Jim:

42 Dormont-Beechview
38 Mt. Lebanon (with stops listed to Castle Shannon)


1101 was Charleroi; 1103 was Donora; and 1303 was Washington interurban 
lines.

About the same time, there was another complaint filed by City of Pittsburgh 
that involved interurban freight stations.

Pittsburgh, Butler, Harmony & New Castle freight station located on Lacock 
west of Craig (north side)

Pittsburgh, Mars & Butler Ry freight station located on Duquesne Way at 
Sixth St. bridge.

Pittsburgh Railways freight station on Grant St. at corner of First.

The findings were: 1) all three freight stations were located on busy city 
streets; 2) standing freight cars obstructed traffic; 3) facilities were 
inadequate for volume of business handled.

"The Engineering Conference Committee (representatives from PRC, city, PSC) 
recommends trolley freight station and dock to be located on north side of 
Monongahlela River to west of Wabash Railroad Bridge."

John




>From: Jim Holland <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Rt. 49 and Brownsville Ave. single track
>Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:30:45 -0700
>
>
> > John F Bromley wrote:
>
> > I've seen pictures of PCCs and low-floors signed 46 Brownsville, but all
> > were in Tunnel Yard.  Perhaps photographers ran them up for the occasion 
>(a
> > practice I would NEVER do, cough cough)?
>
>	I have M.D. McCarter photo #N20834 of PCC 1154 outbound at the turnout
>on Smithfield at Carson signed  46--BROWNSVILLE (don't know the date -
>would have to check his catalog and that is a little complicated - but
>it is about 1940 or a little later.)  Ed had chimed in way back and had
>given us a date of the route sign change-over, but finding it now is
>difficult!
>
>	Have a photo of a PCC in Palm Garden displaying  51--BON--AIR!!
>
> > Since I've got it unfolded, it might amuse the group to know the route 
>names
> > from 1926.  For the sake of completeness I'll list even the common ones 
>that
> > bear no surprises.  Here we go (according to the map, so they must be 
>true):
>
> > 33    Mt Washington McGann's Corner
>
>	Are you sure that is not McGALT corner?!?!<GGG>
>
> > 43    Neeld Ave (Dormont)
>
>	Nitting  --  actually Beechview.
>
>	Did you see anything on >>--77??
>
>
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