[PRCo] Re: Rt. 49 and Brownsville Ave. single track
Jim Holland
pghpcc at pacbell.net
Thu Jun 7 06:21:05 EDT 2001
> John Swindler wrote:
> Concerning 46-Brownsville
> Stumbled across Complaint Docket #1571 in the State Law Library today. It's
> dated 19 Aug 1918 and involves City of Pittsburgh, Pitts. Rys. and Public
> Service Commission.
> 49 Beltzhoover operated via tunnel. (so a Jones car signed for 49 would be
> appropriate for a South Hills Junction module. But apparently not 46)
> 306B East Carson along Brownsville Ave. to Allentown Dist. That became 46
> Brownsville and eventually 49 Beltzhoover.
Interesting! 49-Beltzhoover runs thru tunnel and South Hills Jct. to
(???) and is operated via low-floor cars. This was 1918 to (???). The
46-Brownsville was operated by low floors via Carson and present
[New]-Arlington to (???) in approximately the same time frame as the
49-B-thru the tunnel. Then PCCs start operating the 46-line. The
49-line thru the tunnel must have been dropped and then the
46-Brownsville was renamed to 49-Beltzhoover *-probably-* because the
46-line in Allentown was extended to include the outer portion of the
49-tunnel and the patrons could easily identify this! Does this make
sense?!?!<GGG>
> 25 from O'Donovan's Corner through Shoenville Dist. to Pressed Steel Car
> Works. (????)
From pg.424 of Middleton's *Time of the Trolley* I quote:
"Pressed Steel Car Company, Pittsburgh, Pa. (1896--1954)"
"Pressed Steel, originally known as the <Schoen> Steel Company,
initially concentrated on the production of steel freight cars. In 1906
the company began to produce steel passenger cars and soon afterward was
outshopping a large number of rapid transit, street, and interurban
railway cars. Among these was the first steel trolley cars ever built,
which were produced for the Montreal street railway system in 1907. The
company continued in the carbuilding business until 1954, when the
Pittsburgh plant was closed."
Tom Parkinson's book on Pittsburgh lists the following PRCo cars as
built by Pressed Steel:
4100--4149
4825--4864
5000--5099
A roster by Charles J. Murphy of 1944.09.18 also lists the following by
Pressed Steel:
4250--4349
A third roster compiled by Harold Buckley Jr, 1963.08.10, acknowledges
the help of Harry C. Bartley; Charles Dengler; Henry Leinbach, Jr;
Charles J. Murphy; O.R. Cummings. This roster acknowledges Tom's
listing, lists 4259--4349 as Standard Steel, and lists
4300--4349--as--Pressed--Steel.
As Popeye says: "Takes Yer Choice!!"
Wonder if any of those cars were delivered with
cracked//scratched//broken headlights?!?!
> 55 Second Ave. to Homestead only
> 56 Second Ave. McKeesport
> 408 Glassport-McKeesport-Wilmerding (later 97)
> 409 McKeesport Shuttle (later Evans Ave.)
The 3-digit numbers were never displayed on the cars, correct?
These were ledger//accounting//(spread--sheet--entries) for
identification purposes, correct?
These 3-digit numbers were listed in the Bion J. Arnold report which
Don McGalt quotes frequently and which many of us have, correct?
> 50 Carson (route to 30th St. as we knew it?)
> 52 Second Ave., 10th St. Bridge, Carson to 36th St. (yes, wasn't a shuttle)
But was a shuttle later from 30th to 36th, correct??
> 83 Short turn on 82 around Herron Hill.
AKA--85??
> 81 Oakland District Loop (later Atwood)
Wonder if this was like a shuttle between Oakland and the outer end of
the 81?
> And here's one for Jim:
> 36 Fairhaven
> Also for Jim:
> 42 Dormont-Beechview
> 38 Mt. Lebanon (with stops listed to Castle Shannon)
Thank You, Sir!!
Can you tell us more about the 36-Fairhaven? Just rush hours?
Can we assume that the 38-line was one unit from Castle Shannon to
downtown over Washington Rd and W. Liberty?
> About the same time, there was another complaint filed by City of Pittsburgh
> that involved interurban freight stations.
> Pittsburgh Railways freight station on Grant St. at corner of First.
Didn't a tunnel exist near 3rd//Diamond//Market//Ferry Streets which
was used by trolley--freight from Grant to Point??
--
James B. Holland
Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo), 1930 -- 1950
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