[PRCo] Re: real actual on-topic ebay item

Edward H. Lybarger twg at pulsenet.com
Thu Jun 7 10:06:15 EDT 2001


Beg to differ.  West Penn Railways purchased the cars in 1944 from West Penn
Securities Department, Inc.

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Subject: [PRCo] Re: real actual on-topic ebay item




Wasn't inadvertent.  Car 832 wasn't owned by West Penn Railways.




>From: Jim Holland <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: real actual on-topic ebay item
>Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:01:55 -0700
>
>
> > ROGER Jenkins wrote:
>
> > The pix is taken on the last day of operation or the day after isnt it
> > ?? Where did that car go to between the time WP quit and its arrival at
> > Penn. Trolley Museum ??
>
>	A little more information.  WP inadvertently left curve-side 832 off
>its official roster or it would have been scrapped.  Because of this
>oversite, PERC was able to purchase the car.  As John has indicated, it
>was trucked to Charleroi Car House (don-t know the date--ED???) where it
>sat until May--10--1953 when it ran under its own power to Ingram.
>There is a photo of 832 on one of the Charleroi high-bridges on pg.4 of
>*Trolley Talk* #28, April-1960.  This photo was also offered as part of
>a color slide set sold by PRMA.
>
>1953.05.10  4921  PRCo  South Hills to Charleroi to store West Penn 832!
>1953.05.10   832  PRCo  Charleroi to Ingram to store West Penn 832!
>
>	PRCo was quite accommodating to PERC and stored M1 in addition to 3756
>and WP832 at Ingram until the museum purchased the present trackage at
>County Home Siding on the Washington line.  The cars then ran under
>their own power from Ingram along West Carson, up through the
>Mt.-Washington trolleycar tunnel, out Drake and then along the former
>Washington interurban line which remained intact these 6-months of
>abandonment.  M1 was actually towed by 3756 to the Drake trestle at
>which point it actually ran the rest of the way on its own.  Car-4393
>was a high speed double end low floor car which brought the people back
>from Arden.
>
>1954.02.07  3756  PRCo  Move museum cars Ingram to County Home Museum
>	site near Arden.  4393 used for return trip to Pittsburgh.
>	(Washington Interurban truncated at Drake 1953.08.29.)
>1954.02.07  M-1  PRCo  Move museum cars Ingram to County Home Museum
>	site near Arden.  4393 used for return trip to Pittsburgh.
>	(Washington Interurban truncated at Drake 1953.08.29.)
>1954.02.07  832  PRCo  Move museum cars Ingram to County Home Museum
>	site near Arden.  4393 used for return trip to Pittsburgh.
>	(Washington Interurban truncated at Drake 1953.08.29.)
>1954.02.07  4393  PRCo  Move museum cars Ingram to County Home Museum
>	site near Arden.  4393 used for return trip to Pittsburgh.
>	(Washington Interurban truncated at Drake 1953.08.29.)
>
>	Pgs.9-10 of PTM  *Trolley Fare*  has historical information on the
>above February trip of 1954 as well as other information about the
>founding of the museum.
>
>--
>James B. Holland
>         Pittsburgh  Railways  Company  (PRCo),   1930  --  1950
>     To e-mail privately, please click here: mailto:pghpcc at pacbell.net
>N.M.R.A.  Life member #2190; http://www.mcs.net:80/~weyand/nmra/
>

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