[PRCo] Re: 46--line vs 49--line

[John F Bromley]

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  49 via Tunnel RHO, every 15 minutes, the 46 on the
hill was base service.  Sort of explains the replacement eventually by 47.

----- Original Message -----
From: <tsquare at toad.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:21 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: 46--line vs 49--line


>
> S'funny!  But I don't recall ever seeing a 49-Beltzhoover
> running thru the tunnel.  (It may have been a rush-hour-only
> operation, however, as I didn't usually ride at that time of
> day -- I do recall seeing 47-Carrick via Tunnel on occasion.)
> A point to remember:  PRCo's operators often would give only
> a partial turn of the rollsign crank or otherwise show a
> false destination when deadheading -- this trait was peculiar
> to PRCo -- thus showing an inappropriate message.
>
> Tom
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of John
> F Bromley
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 5:56 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 46--line vs 49--line
>
>
>
> Route 46-Brownsville was replaced (date?) by a re-routed 49-Beltzhoover
> when  49-Beltzhoover stopped coming up through the tunnel (and was
replaced
> by rush hour 47 Carrick via Tunnel).  The 46 went to Gearing & Chalfont,
> just as did the 49, so the denizens of the surrounfing area could whip
> downtown via the fast route or the scenic route.  This from the Lewis 1926
> guide and the June 1936 and October 1938 PRC route guides (all gleaned
from
> bids on the odious eBay in the past few months).  Oh, that it were so
today.
> Riders from this area are probably lucky now if they see the odd bus that
> might drop them at the junction!
>
> Presumably the changes occurred in the 1940s.  The guides don't list loops
> and PERHAPS the line stopped in the street at the intersection and that a
> loop wasn't necessary until the 1940s.   On the other hand I remember that
> loop well (lots of pix as well) and I can't see PRC buying a property in
the
> 1940s and tearing down a house or three for the purpose of building a
loop,
> so maybe it was there all along (or at least from the beginning of the
> single end car era).   So far I haven't turned up a route guide for that
> period.
>
> JFB
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Holland" <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
> To: "-->- PRCo -- WP -- JTC -- The Big *3* -<--"
> <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 5:04 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] 46--line vs 49--line
>
>
> >
> > HI!
> > Trivia question.  The other day, Ed said:::::::
> >
> > > Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
> >
> > > Became "Beltzhoover" September 30, 1946.  Now if I were only this
> efficient
> > > and knowledgeable about real work...
> >
> > ...And I have mentioned the MD McCarter photo of a PCC signed
> > 46--Brownsville so PCCs worked the line which means
> > there was a loop somewhere.
> >
> > ...AND  Tom Phillips, John-S, and others have mentioned that
> > there was a 49-line that ran up through the tunnel,
> > possibly as late as 1950 (although the quote from Ed
> > above would seem to rule that out.)
> >
> > ...And  it has also been mentioned that the 46--line ran into Allentown.
> >
> > ...Now  --  did the original 46-line terminate near Warrington
> > and reverse ends?  Did the original 46-line terminate
> > anywhere else in this vicinity and then reverse ends?
> > OR  did the 46 line always operate out Climax to Gearing?
> >
> > Just prior to the 1946.09.30 sign change of the 46-line,
> > 1)--was the 49-line running thru the tunnel?
> > 2)--Did both these lines have the same outer terminal on Gearing?
> >
> > The plot, like Chunky, gets thickerer!
> >
> > --
> > James B. Holland
> >         Pittsburgh  Railways  Company  (PRCo),   1930  --  1950
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> >
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