[PRCo] Charles & Perrysville a Double Track Wye for Sure!!

[Jim Holland]

Hi Matt!

	I  AM  Convinced:::::::	It seems that the photo indicated strongly
suggests a turnout is there.  Maybe Don would like to borrow my
bi-fogies!!(:->)

	I had my 1949  ERA  map enlarged and it definitely shows a double track
turn at this location as a dotted line indicating it was removed but had
been there at one time.

	SOOOoooooo,  from Charles Street there was a double track-wye to
Perrysville with a single track wye from the 21-line on the other side!

	As Fred indicated in another post, I confused the intersections of East
and Charles for a while which clouded my understanding.  This map does
not show a crossover on Perrysville outbound of East Street but there is
obviously one inbound of East and Evergreen for the 12-line shuttle.

	At one time, then, the 8-line operated to and from East//Perrysville; 
the 9-line operated from Downtown along Perrysville to Charles and
aprox. Strauss and return.  And the 21-line did its normal route.  This
was probably prior to Keating opening.

	Then the 8-line was extended to Keating; the 9-line was converted to a
shuttle between Strauss and Perrysville; then we lost the 9-line and
eventually the 7-line.

DERRICK:::::::	If I hadn't enlarged the ERA map we were going to send
you to that intersection with your pick-ax to see what you could
find!!(:->)

> mrb190 wrote:

> The Charles St. to Perrysville South connection seems to be there, but
> I'm not certain.  I even checked the North Side video which features a
> very quick shot of a route 9 meeting up with a route 21.  I couldn't
> pick out any trackage in it unfortunately.

>>> On 19 May 01, at 20:11, Bob Rathke wrote:

>>> This would explain the rail connecting
>>> outbound Perrysville Avenue to Charles St. - but no overhead
>>> wire - as seen in the 8/31/47 photo at
http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/kjpgh300.htm
>>> This track is not shown on the 1959 PERC map, implying that
>>> route 9-Perrysville/Charles may have operated pre-1920.

>> Donald Galt wrote:

>> I'm not convince that we can see such a Perrysville Ave. - Charles
>> Street curve in this picture.  Everybody take another look.

-- 
James B. Holland

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