[PRCo] Re: Baggage Rack & Other INterurban Equipment

[Greg King]

Hi Ed,

That would have been a big job, did they use parts (wheels, motors etc.)
from scrapped B2's???

Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Edward H. Lybarger <twg at pulsenet.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:15 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Baggage Rack & Other INterurban Equipment


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> The new B-3s were manufactured locally by Hall Industries.  (I knew Harold
> Hall from about 1970 when his firm contracted to build an auditory
training
> device for the company I then worked for.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Greg
> King
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 8:54 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Baggage Rack & Other INterurban Equipment
>
>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Where would they have got the new B3's from, by the time PAT was thinking
of
> building the 4000's, they would have had to go to Tatra or BN to get that
> sort of equipment unless these were second hand equipment.
>
> Greg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Holland <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 7:41 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Baggage Rack & Other INterurban Equipment
>
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> >
> > > Harold Geissenheimer wrote:
> >
> > > I believe that the little steel platform was removed after
> > > the interurbans quit.  A motormans type seat was used
> > > as the replacement if I remember this.
> >
> > The racks most definitely remained into the ({[pat]}) era.  PRCo
> > started removing them and as Herb indicated, they were completely
> > removed by the time he was operating.
> > I  *always*  rode in the railfan seat - on the baggage rack - when
> > riding the interurbans and when I knew the motorman.  I was
> > super-frequent-rider in the late 1950s, early 1960s and never remember
> > sitting on a motormans seat in place of the baggage rack, although I
> > knew a couple interurbans had such seats replacing racks!
> >
> > The only things removed when the interurbans of Charleroi and
> > Washington were truncated at Library and Drake respectively were the
> > spare trolley poles strapped to the roof, the fare register which was
> > replaced by a fare box, fire-fighting equipment, tools, and the 2-way
> > radios.  Literature comments always say that  *most*  of the interurban
> > equipment was removed, but this is not true!
> > The Earll retriever remained (but was gradually replaced by catchers as
> > they failed in the 1960s, starting with PRCo), the roof light remained,
> > the pilot remained, the horn remained, the left-rear window remained
> > operable, the baggage rack remained (but was systematically replaced
> > with motormans seats starting ca.-1960,) and the B-3 trucks remained!!
> > Then under ({[pat]}) the radios came back to all equipment!
> > Also interesting to note is that when ({[pat]}) thought they were going
> > to build quite a few 4000s, they ordered quite a few new B-3 trucks and
> > outfitted quite a few remaining 1700s preparing for the conversion.
> > Sunburst Trolley 1730 had B-3 trucks in her latter days, starting at
> > least in 1984 when I was there last!  And quite a number of other
> > original city cars had B-3s as well.
> >
> > >> Bob Rathke wrote:
> >
> > >> I rode the 36-Drake line nearly every day from 1972-83, and was on
many
> 1700
> > >> interurbans, but never saw one with a baggage rack.  Only in early
> 1950's
> > >> photos.
> >
> > >>> HRBran99 at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >>> Be advised that during the years I operated those cars (1973-1979)
the
> racks
> > >>> had all been removed. I operated 1711 many times and it did not have
a
> rack.
> > >>> It is possible that shop personnel attached the rack back into the
car
> prior
> > >>> to sending it to Arden.
> >
> > >>> HrB
> >
> > --
> > James B. Holland
> >         Pittsburgh  Railways  Company  (PRCo),   1930  --  1950
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> >
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