[PRCo] Re: Baggage Rack & Other INterurban Equipment

Edward H. Lybarger twg at pulsenet.com
Mon May 28 10:45:55 EDT 2001


In November PTM is scheduled open only on weekends, except Friday the 23rd,
when Santa Claus makes his seasonal debut.  But if we have some advance
notice, we will try to accommodate during the week, schedules permitting.
It would also be best to avoid the 5th thru the 11th, when a lot of us will
be away at the Association of Railway Museums convention.

We'd be glad to see you!

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Greg
King
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 4:56 AM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Baggage Rack & Other INterurban Equipment



Hi All,

Any of you gentlemen active members at Arden? The reason I ask is, in early
November, I hope to be making a visit to Pgh and, in particular Arden, I'm
not sure of dates etc., may even have to be during the week, will there be
anyone around at that time to run stuff and open the store please??? Would
this only be possible on the weekend. It's a long way from Australia to
visit and find the place closed!

Cheers
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Edward H. Lybarger <twg at pulsenet.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:15 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Baggage Rack & Other INterurban Equipment


>
> I don't know.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Fred
> W. Schneider III
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 4:17 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Baggage Rack & Other INterurban Equipment
>
>
>
> Were the Ohmer receipt printers leased or owned, and where did they wind
> up?  If someone wanted one to put in 1711, where would one look?
>
> Jim Holland wrote:
> >
> > > Harold Geissenheimer wrote:
> >
> > > I believe that the little steel platform was removed after
> > > the interurbans quit.  A motormans type seat was used
> > > as the replacement if I remember this.
> >
> >         The racks most definitely remained into the ({[pat]}) era.  PRCo
> > started removing them and as Herb indicated, they were completely
> > removed by the time he was operating.
> >         I  *always*  rode in the railfan seat - on the baggage rack -
when
> > riding the interurbans and when I knew the motorman.  I was
> > super-frequent-rider in the late 1950s, early 1960s and never remember
> > sitting on a motormans seat in place of the baggage rack, although I
> > knew a couple interurbans had such seats replacing racks!
> >
> >         The only things removed when the interurbans of Charleroi and
> > Washington were truncated at Library and Drake respectively were the
> > spare trolley poles strapped to the roof, the fare register which was
> > replaced by a fare box, fire-fighting equipment, tools, and the 2-way
> > radios.  Literature comments always say that  *most*  of the interurban
> > equipment was removed, but this is not true!
> >         The Earll retriever remained (but was gradually replaced by
> catchers as
> > they failed in the 1960s, starting with PRCo), the roof light remained,
> > the pilot remained, the horn remained, the left-rear window remained
> > operable, the baggage rack remained (but was systematically replaced
> > with motormans seats starting ca.-1960,) and the B-3 trucks remained!!
> >         Then under ({[pat]}) the radios came back to all equipment!
> >         Also interesting to note is that when ({[pat]}) thought they
were
> going
> > to build quite a few 4000s, they ordered quite a few new B-3 trucks and
> > outfitted quite a few remaining 1700s preparing for the conversion.
> > Sunburst Trolley 1730 had B-3 trucks in her latter days, starting at
> > least in 1984 when I was there last!  And quite a number of other
> > original city cars had B-3s as well.
> >
> > >> Bob Rathke wrote:
> >
> > >> I rode the 36-Drake line nearly every day from 1972-83, and was on
many
> 1700
> > >> interurbans, but never saw one with a baggage rack.  Only in early
> 1950's
> > >> photos.
> >
> > >>> HRBran99 at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >>> Be advised that during the years I operated those cars (1973-1979)
the
> racks
> > >>> had all been removed. I operated 1711 many times and it did not have
a
> rack.
> > >>> It is possible that shop personnel attached the rack back into the
car
> prior
> > >>> to sending it to Arden.
> >
> > >>> HrB
> >
> > --
> > James B. Holland
> >         Pittsburgh  Railways  Company  (PRCo),   1930  --  1950
> >     To e-mail privately, please click here: mailto:pghpcc at pacbell.net
> > N.M.R.A.  Life member #2190; http://www.mcs.net:80/~weyand/nmra/
>
>
>
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