[PRCo] Re: West Penn Cars at PTM

[Fred W. Schneider III]

Why waste your breath?  We've been down this how many times in the last
few months?  fws

John Swindler wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Greg, for your generous offer of $1.2 million (US) to rebuild
> West Penn 739 as an operating car.  When can Ed expect your check??
> 
> Sorry about the sarcasm, which will continue, but why would anyone want to
> rebuild West Penn 739 - or several other cars - as operating pieces of
> equipment??  Because anything that is operated is a liability.  It suffers
> continual wear and tear.
> 
> How many operating cars are required for a demonstration electric railway???
> 
> At one extreme are the advocates of trying to restore everything to
> operating condition.
> 
> At the other extreme is a position that everthing at a trolley museum could
> be "stuffed and mounted" exhibits, such as the B&O Museum, for instance, and
> then buy some Gomaco products to provide the demonstration electric railway.
>   I use that last term because PTM is claiming to be a non-profit
> educational organization, and not a club.
> 
> A compromise in between may be the best use of available resources and allow
> for the elimination of the greatest number of 'chicken coops' from a
> property.
> 
> Just a biased opinion.
> 
> John
> 
> >From: "Greg King" <tramway at alphalink.com.au>
> >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: West Penn Cars at PTM
> >Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:59:58 +1100
> >
> >
> >Thanks Ed,
> >
> >Would it be possible to rebuild 739 with air brakes, I know it's not
> >exactly
> >right but it would be better than just stuffed and mounted.
> >
> >Best wishes
> >Greg
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <twg at pulsenet.com>
> >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:53 AM
> >Subject: [PRCo] West Penn Cars at PTM
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It is unlikely that we will rebuild a 700 with magnetic brakes, though
> >they
> > > could be fabricated from the drawings on hand.  Such a car would present
> >an
> > > instruction and operations nightmare in an otherwise air brake fleet (ST
> > > sweepers excepted).  So the static exhibit appears the logical way to go
> >for
> > > 739.  722's major resource is its complete toilet.
> > >
> > > 832 is basically unchanged in the last 22 years...it's a kit, waiting
> >for
> > > skill and money to get interested in it.  If that all came together, it
> > > could run with about two years' work.
> > >
> > > Maybe over the winter I'll open some more drawings; if the 280s appear,
> >I'll
> > > advise.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> > > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Greg
> > > King
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 5:21 PM
> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Johnstown also
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ed,
> > >
> > > Thanks, hope you can find a set of the 200's, as for the Spittoons on
> >the
> > > 700's, matbe when I get around to building a 700!!! By the way, am I
> >correct
> > > in recalling someone saying that one of the 700 bodies you have will
> > > probably only ever be a static exhibit and the other for parts, that's a
> > > shame, whilst I understand the complexities and costs of the
> >restoration,
> > > they were such a classic car, they surely deserve to run. At what stage
> >is
> > > 832 these days, they were certainly a handsome car too.
> > >
> > > Thanks again
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > > We have a lot of West Penn drawings in the PTM library, but many have
> >not
> > > > yet been unrolled.  I can't say whether or not we have this one or
> >not.
> > > But
> > > > I can tell you all about the spittoons for the 700s!
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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