[PRCo] Re: West Penn Cars at PTM

Fred W. Schneider III fschnei at supernet.com
Wed Nov 7 16:22:41 EST 2001


No, Gregg,  

             its not better than stuffed and mounted.  Economically it
makes sense to keep as few cars as possible in operating condition ...
same as the transit industry ... keep the spare ratio as small as you
can.  Only the railfans care about specific cars.   The railfans,
however, don't support the museum to the tune of more than about one
percent.  Therefore management really has no reason to listen to them. 
The only thing that talks is money.  Large quantities of money.  Fares
and sales of $5,000 on weekends gets attention.  Grants from foundations
and government up around $25,000 or more gets attention.  People who
work free for 1,000 hours a year get a lot of attention at the awards
banquet each year.  Railfans who think it would be nice?   They don't
get attention. Nice try anyway. 

"Edward H. Lybarger" wrote:
> 
> This is akin to putting trolley poles on P&W bullet cars.  Not likely to
> happen at PTM.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Greg
> King
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 2:00 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: West Penn Cars at PTM
> 
> Thanks Ed,
> 
> Would it be possible to rebuild 739 with air brakes, I know it's not exactly
> right but it would be better than just stuffed and mounted.
> 
> Best wishes
> Greg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <twg at pulsenet.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:53 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] West Penn Cars at PTM
> 
> >
> > It is unlikely that we will rebuild a 700 with magnetic brakes, though
> they
> > could be fabricated from the drawings on hand.  Such a car would present
> an
> > instruction and operations nightmare in an otherwise air brake fleet (ST
> > sweepers excepted).  So the static exhibit appears the logical way to go
> for
> > 739.  722's major resource is its complete toilet.
> >
> > 832 is basically unchanged in the last 22 years...it's a kit, waiting for
> > skill and money to get interested in it.  If that all came together, it
> > could run with about two years' work.
> >
> > Maybe over the winter I'll open some more drawings; if the 280s appear,
> I'll
> > advise.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Greg
> > King
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 5:21 PM
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Johnstown also
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Ed,
> >
> > Thanks, hope you can find a set of the 200's, as for the Spittoons on the
> > 700's, matbe when I get around to building a 700!!! By the way, am I
> correct
> > in recalling someone saying that one of the 700 bodies you have will
> > probably only ever be a static exhibit and the other for parts, that's a
> > shame, whilst I understand the complexities and costs of the restoration,
> > they were such a classic car, they surely deserve to run. At what stage is
> > 832 these days, they were certainly a handsome car too.
> >
> > Thanks again
> > Greg
> >
> > > We have a lot of West Penn drawings in the PTM library, but many have
> not
> > > yet been unrolled.  I can't say whether or not we have this one or not.
> > But
> > > I can tell you all about the spittoons for the 700s!
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >




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