[PRCo] Re: Smithfield_Carson; and some others

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 29 10:14:06 EST 2001





>Jim Holland Subject: [PRCo] Smithfield_Carson
>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 03:29:45 -0800
>
>
>Good Morning!!
>
>	If the date of 1947.06.12 is correct for 5464 crossing Carson ob in
>this photo (http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/kjpgh310.htm) note
>that there is NO connection to and from the tunnel and West Carson as
>yet and only one connection from the tunnel to eash Carson.
>



Nice photo, Ken.  Thank you

Started looking at some others.  The following is marked as unknown 
location.

http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/kjpgh302.htm

First of all, not Pittsburgh Railways.  See white PAT sticker on side of 
car.  Car is outbound on Forbes turning into Craig St. in Oakland on a 
fantrip.  Pitt's Cathedral of Learning is in (distant) background.  
Switchwork used by rt. 77/54 cars.  Photographer is standing in eastbound 
Forbes Ave. traffic lane next to ob rt 64/67 tracks (68 was already gone)


This one of F6:

http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/kjpgh370.htm

F6 MAY HAVE Been ex Washington and Canonsburg 201-204.  But this needs 
verified.  Could this be Charleroi car barn???  Fred/Ed ????


View of F4 looks like lower end of Tunnel (near Palm Garden Loop).

http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/kjpgh371.htm



I'm surprised that Jim didn't give you an identification of this car

http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/kjpgh232.htm

as outbound 42/38 at Washington Road (Dormont Wye).  Today, car would be 
above the north portal of the Mt. Lebanon subway.




This one  http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/kjpgh228.htm

looks like 44 Knoxville car in PAT livery has just crossed Seventh and is 
turning from Smithfield St. into Liberty while enroute to PRR station (will 
loop around Grayhound terminal.)  Vertical sign in background is for Gimbals 
department store.  Gimbals building (at Sixth and Smithfield) converted into 
office space, with PAT renting a couple floors.

Possible correction:  when did 44 cease to use Liberty-12th-Penn-11th St. 
loop as the "via PRR station" part of headsign looks blank.



This one:  http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/kjpgh230.htm

is inbound 64 or 67 on Forbes Ave. at Wilkinsburg Junction, which was 
intersection of Braddock Ave. and Forbes Ave. Dump truck in background is 
turning north onto Braddock Ave.  That's Frick Park to right, isn't it???


How about looking inbound at Santa Barbara siding on the Drake line for this 
one:

http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/pitt511.jpg

Photographer is standing at the south or outbound switch.



I'm going to guess M134 (ex 5432) at Craft Ave.  Car house building on north 
side depot to left, and open storage tracks on south side of depot to right.

http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/kjpgh218.jpg



And finally, this one is Brentwood Loop, outer terminal of 53 Carrick, 77/54 
and 47.  It had a passing siding.

http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/kjpgh229.htm


Got any more, Ken????





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