[PRCo] Re: 3-car fantrip from Pittsburgh to PRMA Washington
Jim Holland
pghpcc at pacbell.net
Wed Oct 17 05:34:40 EDT 2001
Good Morning!!
> Bob Rathke wrote:
> Jim,
> I have a copy of this photo from Bill Gwinn.
You may have a copy of a *similar* photo, but not this particular
one.(:->) This is NOT a Bill Gwinn photo.
> The detailed caption says that
> 832 is on the bridge, followed by 4393 (your e-mail identidfies this car as
> 3756).
.......AND it is 3756, NOT 4393 which car did not make the trip with
3756 and M1. The 3-Museum cars made it under their own power to the
Museum site at County Home siding -- West--Penn--832, PRCo--3756,
PRCo--M1. PRCo--4393 was sent down later in the day to pick up the
crew and return them to Pgh.
I have a whole sequence of photos and it only shows the 3--Museum Cars
(WP--832; PRCo--3756; PRCo--M1) operating together -- and in the
order listed in parenthesis -- at SHJ, Overbrook, Castle Shannon,
Washington Jct, Drake, Thompsonville, Richfol, Houston, and County Home.
Once at the Museum site, there was some fun and games as various people
operated WP--832 to Tylerdale and back. The members also boarded up
the cars to protect the windows and other vital parts, so it took some
time to get things done. They didn't need another paid PRCo employee
sitting around on 4393 waiting to return!!(:->) Additionally, I have a
larger photo, 8X12, which clearly shows the car waiting to enter the
trestle as 3756!!
From Sept--Oct--1996--*Trolley--Fare* (pg.10) an article by Dwight
Long details this particular trip and the following are excerpts from
that article:::::::
".......In actuality the first three cars, WP-832, 3756, and M-1,
arrived a year later, on February 7, 1954. It would have been a bit
difficult to have commenced storage in February 1953, as the interurban
line to Washington was still in revenue operation."
".......M-1, being judged of questionable mechanical ability by PRCo
officials, was towed by 3756 as far as Drake, but ran by itself the rest
of the way to County Home. The trip was rather different than other
PERC fantrips heretofore, as 3756 was filled with metal siding which was
applied to the cars later in the day and which provided the only modicum
of protection......."
This has all been detailed here before, including some of the quotes
above, when this topic was discussed before.
> I always thought that the 4393 number on the photo was a typo, and
> that the number should have been 4398. If 4393 made the trip to Arden on
> 2/7/54, and then back to Pittsburgh, when did 4398 go to Arden?
No -- 4398 was purchased by PERC or PRMA later - 1956.04.05. Don't
have the actual date of the move to Arden -- think it was several
years later.
Didn't you detail that 4398 was used on the NMRA charter in 1956 or
thereabouts??
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James B. Holland
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