[PRCo] Re: 3-car fantrip from Pittsburgh to PRMA Washington

Bob Rathke bobrathke at home.com
Wed Oct 17 18:59:36 EDT 2001 

Hey, I also used a Kodak Hawkeye for my early 1950s photos, but I eventually
traded it in on a fancy folding camera with real aperture adjustments.  I
wouldn't go back to using the Hawkeye, but it took "okay" photos - several
of them are on the Fallen Flags website.

Bob 1017/01

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Subject: [PRCo] Re: 3-car fantrip from Pittsburgh to PRMA Washington


>
> Greasings!
>
> I was a senior at S.Hills H.S. at the time,this three-car excursion took
> place and had no knowledge of this event. Otherwise, I'd have been there
> shooting away with my, (then), Brownie "Hawkeye", and may have even
> begged a ride to Shannon with the chief operator.
>
> M-1 was an old friend from the time I was age 9, when it came down
> Warrington Hollow to the SHJ siding for payday The only pic I ever took
> of my railbound friend, (along with my son), was at Arden as posted on
> Bob Dietrich's SHJ website.
>
> I can't speak for the rest of the list, but know of at least two who
> would appreciate any consideration given for posting your frames of that
> histoical 2/7/54 excursion. Thanks.
>
> Bob Schmidt
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> From: Jim Holland <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 3-car fantrip from Pittsburgh to PRMA Washington
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> Good Morning!!
>
> > Bob Rathke wrote:
>
> > Jim,
>
> > I have a copy of this photo from Bill Gwinn.
>
> You may have a copy of a  *similar*  photo, but not this particular
> one.(:->)   This is  NOT  a Bill Gwinn photo.
>
> > The detailed caption says that
> > 832 is on the bridge, followed by 4393 (your e-mail identidfies this car
as
> > 3756).
>
> .......AND  it is 3756,  NOT 4393 which car did not make the trip with
> 3756 and M1.   The 3-Museum cars made it under their own power to the
> Museum site at County Home siding  --  West--Penn--832,  PRCo--3756,
> PRCo--M1.   PRCo--4393  was sent down later in the day to pick up the
> crew and return them to Pgh.
>
> I have a whole sequence of photos and it only shows the 3--Museum Cars
> (WP--832;  PRCo--3756;  PRCo--M1) operating together  --  and in the
> order listed in parenthesis  --  at SHJ, Overbrook, Castle Shannon,
> Washington Jct, Drake, Thompsonville, Richfol, Houston, and County Home.
>
> Once at the Museum site, there was some fun and games as various people
> operated  WP--832  to Tylerdale and back.   The members also boarded up
> the cars to protect the windows and other vital parts, so it took some
> time to get things done.   They didn't need another paid PRCo employee
> sitting around on 4393 waiting to return!!(:->)   Additionally, I have a
> larger photo, 8X12, which clearly shows the car waiting to enter the
> trestle as 3756!!
>
> From  Sept--Oct--1996--*Trolley--Fare*  (pg.10) an article by Dwight
> Long details this particular trip and the following are excerpts from
> that article:::::::
>
> ".......In actuality the first three cars, WP-832, 3756, and M-1,
> arrived a year later, on February 7, 1954.  It would have been a bit
> difficult to have commenced storage in February 1953, as the interurban
> line to Washington was still in revenue operation."
> ".......M-1, being judged of questionable mechanical ability by PRCo
> officials, was towed by 3756 as far as Drake, but ran by itself the rest
> of the way to County Home.   The trip was rather different than other
> PERC fantrips heretofore, as 3756 was filled with metal siding which was
> applied to the cars later in the day and which provided the only modicum
> of protection......."
>
> This has all been detailed here before, including some of the quotes
> above, when this topic was discussed before.
>
> > I always thought that the 4393 number on the photo was a typo, and
> > that the number should have been 4398.  If 4393 made the trip to Arden
on
> > 2/7/54, and then back to Pittsburgh, when did 4398 go to Arden?
>
> No  --  4398 was purchased by PERC or PRMA later - 1956.04.05.   Don't
> have the actual date of the move to Arden  --  think it was several
> years later.
>
> Didn't you detail that 4398 was used on the NMRA charter in 1956 or
> thereabouts??
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> James B. Holland
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