[PRCo] Re: PITTSBURGH PCC ROLLSIGNS

[John F Bromley]

Descending/ascending numbers are probably not that common.  TTC had 4321 and
subway car 5432, variety of buses (ugh!) and ascending 4567, trailer 2345.
If you want to get into that bit of fluff with cars numbered only evenly we
had Witt 2468 (no cheering allowed), PCC 4268.  Then there's the single
digit oddities like PRC 1111 (thus tying all this in, Derrick), Muni the
same ( a sop to Jim), TTC PCC 4444 and subway car 5555, Boston 3333, Philly
PCC 2222 (however briefly) and Nearside 6666 and a myriad of others.  Who
knows of a rail-bound electric 7777, 8888 and 9999 (actually the Belgian
Vicinal may have had that one).

Enough twaddle.  Time to go and have the first of many turkey sandwiches.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Schneider" <fschnei at supernet.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 11:09 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: PITTSBURGH PCC ROLLSIGNS


>
> There were a wide variety of owl routes, and also combinations that took
place
> after abandonment of some routes ... such as the paving of West Liberty
Avenue
> between Brookline Blvd. and Dormont Junction lead to 42/38 as a regular
route,
> diminished patronage in the 1950s lead to a 6/13 owl (later full time
under PAT)
> to eliminate the redundancy of having both 13 and 15 running on California
> Avenue.   I don't have a PAT map handy, but might 5th and Craig be a Craft
> Avenue barn or a Duquesne Gardens sign?
>
> I would be very suspicious of anything on any car used for a fantrip
because
> railfan created signs were often left behind after the trips, allowing at
least
> one member of this list to run cars signed for Gotham City via Bat Cave in
> revenue service.  Remember that 5432 was the last active low floor (as the
> traffic paint car), and it was used for at least one fantrip.
>
> How come no one has asked why the only surviving  car with a number
descending
> of single digits was chosen for the traffic paint car....  There would
have been
> only two other such cars four digit numbers: 4321, and 3210.  Hmm ... if
SPTC
> ever gets to the single door Jones car, I think I might by that one in
maroon
> paint.  Maybe I could also buy a PCC numbered 1234.
>
> Macmarka at cs.com wrote:
>
> >   Yet another variation would be 19-Western-Woods Run. Just ran across
> > another photo showing car 5432 at Ingram CH sporting the sign 54-Fifth
and
> > Craig St. Only. And I know I'm alittle behind all you seasoned veterans,
but
> > I was totally unaware of the combined  44/48 Knoxville-Arlington until I
saw
> > one of your photos John.  It would be interesting to see such a list if
one
> > were available.                        Mark Mc  (my tab key just decided
to
> > quit on me)
>
>
>