[PRCo] Re: PRCo--1234

Jim Holland pghpcc at pacbell.net
Tue Jul 16 15:30:08 EDT 2002


Good Morning!

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/shawncd/SHJ/PTM1200.JPG   ---   shows this
even more distinctly  --  esp. the transition between the two.

> "Dietrich, Robert J." wrote:

> Another Bill Vigras photo shows this feature very clearly on car 1240 --
> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/shawncd/SHJ/cr1200.htm.  I suppose I'll have
> to make another update to that page.

> Bob

>> From:   Jim Holland [mailto:pghpcc at pacbell.net]

>> Reviewing Bill Vigrass' photos and this particular Url
   (http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/bvp016.htm)
>> is of interest  --  note the black Golden Glow.
>> Car was delivered with chrome but must have
>> been replaced during the war years.

>>> Fredbruhn at aol.com wrote:

>>> Does 1234 have an extended trolley pole base in this photo?

>>         The car was delivered as pictured but there is a sense
>> to which we can answer  *Yes*  to your question.

>>         ALL  PRCo 1200s retained the short round trolley
>> cowl ala 100, 1000--1199 but a longer and wider portion
>> was placed in front of it to scoop in air for forced-air
>> motor ventilation  --  the 12s were PRCo's first cars with
>> forced-ventilation.   A transition piece was added
>> between the original small trolley cowl and the
>> longer portion in front.
>>         St.Louis Public Service 1500s had a trolley cowl
>> identical to PRCo 1200s.   In fact, SLPS 15s were
>> identical body-wise to PRCo 1200s except for the front end
>> (in addition to being All-Electric, 50-50-WH-GE, and
>> operator controls)   ---   even the trolley catcher
>> was above the rear window!
>>         I have been told that a group of DCT also had
>> the same but it is quite often difficult to discern from
>> pictures so I don't know which series in DC.
>>         PRCo 1400 and forward arrived with a modification
>> of the above (and *most*  other PCCs had something very
>> similar when the longer trolley cowl was used.)  
>> The short trolley cowl ala 100, 1000--1199 was omitted
>> and the sides of the long portion were extended back
>> past the trolley base but in alignment with the front
>> portion.   This would have covered over the trolley base
>> itself except for a gentle arc cut across the surface
>> in front of the trolley base.

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