[PRCo] Re: PRCo--Paint__&__Numbers

[Jim Holland]

Good Morning!
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>> Jim wrote:::::::

>> PCC Interurban 1713 also sported the "V" front.  
>> PTM wanted this car because it was at Charleroi
>> when WP-832 was there (but so was 1711!)   But
>> for some reason,  ({[pat]})  held the car,
>> repainted it to similar PRCo colors ostensibly
>> to keep the car, but where is it now?!?!

> From: Bill:::::::

> Did you mean 1613? I thought the car repainted in PRCo
> colours was a 1600 air car.  According to the caption
> on this Bill Vigrass photo 1613 is in storage on the
> County Home siding.

	No - I meant 1713.   PCC Interurban--1713 was delivered with the hourglass
front end, then repainted to "V"-dash in the late 1950s, early 1960s.   It
was subsequently painted in the  ({[pat]})  gray and other colors and then
repainted to resemble the original PRCo delivery colors for the subway
opening.

	PRCo PCC Interurban 1613 was overhauled, renumbered, and repainted in PRCo
colors with solid red dash as all air-cars were delivered.   This was done
before 1713 (some time in 1979.)
	This URL you provided
(http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/bvp046.htm) is of 1613 in 
*1948*  - this car still has the paint in which it was delivered.   The
location is the County Home Siding on the Washington Interurban   ---  
that spot became the Trolley Museum near Pittsburgh.   See below for more!
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>>> From: "ad3141":::::::

>>> Which of the 1600-class PCCs were rebuilt and renumbered into the 
>>> 1700s in the 1970s? And why did one (or maybe more) have a front 
>>> trolley pole in addition to the normal rear pole? Finally, what colors 
>>> were they painted?

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PCC Interurbans::

1616--1776 - first complete overhaul and
	conversion of 1600-series to 1700--series

1615--1777

1617--1778

1647--1779--double-ender for a short time.
	Revert to single-end when rebuilt with
	flat lrv front end after accident.

1619--1780--double-ender for a short time.

1646--1781--double-ender for a short time.
	Revert to single-end when rebuilt with
	flat lrv front end after accident.

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1603--1784 
	1784 rebuilt with flat lrv type front
	after an accident and renumbered 1976.

1613--1799 - was PRCo first PCC Interurban in Jan-1946.
	Equipped with experimental B3s.   These were
	replaced with conventional B2s in mid-1950s.
	({[pat]})  stripped car of most interurban gear.
	({[pat]})  decided to keep this car for historical
	reasons but it ended up at the museum, PTM.
	http://www.pa-trolley.org/

1621--1789

1623--1782

1628--1787

1635--77/54 - Numbered in honor of KDKA Radio DJ Rege Cordic
	who dubbed the 77/54 route the Flyin' Fraction.

1636--1783

1637--1785

1638--1796

1639--1788

1640--1798

1643//1641--1786
	Renumbered to 1641 before conversion to 1786.

1644--1797 - converted to Interurban in 1947 but reverted
	to city car in 1950.   Used Experimental B-2A trucks
	as an Interurban.

1652--1792

1656--1791

1660--1790

1662--1795

1669--1794 - Triple Treat Ribverboat Car.   Made to
	look like river paddlewheeler - wouldn't fit thru
	tunnel so used only on 49-line tunnel bypass!

1671--1793

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	Interurbans 1619, 1646, and 1647 were converted to double-enders in 1974
to be used as shuttles in an emergency.   All cars reverted to single-end
by late-1977.

	As far as color schemes go, too many to list   ---   Sorry!(:->)

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James B. Holland

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