[PRCo] Re: PRC PCC scuffs

[John Swindler]

>John F Bromley commented:  Ever seen pix of 1603 from that fantrip in the 
>early 1970s.  I have a shot from Bill Vigrass (available on his CD-ROM 
>Volume 1) that is almost unbelievable.


Was that the fantrip that used 1603 for part of day, and 1776 for second 
half??  I took some slides of Harold G. pointing out to couple officials 
from another transit system (wonder if one of them was Bill Vigrass) the 
rust buckets that PAT had to work with (1603), and what the Tunnel Carhouse 
folks were able to achieve (1776).   (I really should confirm car numbers)

I think it was in one of Fred the third's books that he mentioned that the 
PCC car was designed for a 20 year life.  And then the cars were to be 
scrapped because further development in rail vehicle design would produce an 
improved product.  These are the words of Conway and Hirshfeld to the ERPCC 
annual meetings during the 1930s as their work was nearing completion.  From 
that perspective, none of the PCC rebuilding programs should have occurred.  
Again, read what Hirshfeld and Conway had to say.

John


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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at attbi.com>
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:43 PM
>Subject: [PRCo] PRC PCC scuffs
>
>
> > We tend to think that PCC neglect happened mostly in the later years of
>PRC and in the early days of PAT.
> >
> > See two photos from my collection that Derrick uploaded to the dementia
>page:
> >
> > http://trolley.dementia.org/brathke/PRC1291-28.JPG  -  1291 on route 28,
>probably in 1946.
> >
> > http://trolley.dementia.org/brathke/PRC1499-18-102846.JPG  -  1499 on
>route 18 entering downtown on October 28, 1946 (do the flags suggest a
>fantrip?).
> >
> > Car 1291 was only six years old, and 1499 was only four years old at 
>that
>time, and yet the fronts and sides of both cars show significant traffic
>damage.  Could their appearance be the result of reduced maintenance during
>WWII?  Regardless, the scuff pattern is very similar on both cars - I 
>wonder
>if they encountered the same truck or pole...or maybe EACH OTHER if each
>were running on the left sides of two NC tracks :-}
> >
> > Bob 3/29/02
> >
> >
> >
> >
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