[PRCo] Re: PRC PCC scuffs

[Jim Holland]

Greasings!!!!!!!!

	With the vote in 1956 to form  ({[paac]})  being successful it was
definitely downhill after that!   But Roger's movies of the latter 1950s
shows equipment in Very Decent shape and his movies are extremely crisp and
clear.
	It would seem PRCo was average on body maintenance into the 1950s;  yes,
there are extreme examples, but that doesn't  *seem*  to be the rule.   The
low-floor cars were rather ratty toward the end.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRC PCC scuffs
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:19:37 -0500
From: John F Bromley <johnfbromley at rogers.com>
Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
References: <005501c1d749$58422980$91f0f80c at attbi.com>

As Fred the 3rd will tell you PRC maintained their cars mechanically and
electrically but with all those narrow streets the only collision damage to
be repaired had to be significant.  They didn't have the money.  Paint?  
Forget it.  I have pix from the early 1960s of 1465 and it appeared to be
wearing paint applied by St Louis Car Co., it was that old.  Ever seen pix
of 1603 from that fantrip in the early 1970s.  I have a shot from Bill
Vigrass (available on his CD-ROM Volume 1) that is almost unbelievable.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at attbi.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:43 PM
Subject: [PRCo] PRC PCC scuffs

We tend to think that PCC neglect happened mostly in the later years of PRC
and in the early days of PAT.

See two photos from my collection that Derrick uploaded to the dementia
page:

http://trolley.dementia.org/brathke/PRC1291-28.JPG  -  1291 on route 28,
probably in 1946.
>
http://trolley.dementia.org/brathke/PRC1499-18-102846.JPG  -  1499 on route
18 entering downtown on October 28, 1946 (do the flags suggest a fantrip?).

Car 1291 was only six years old, and 1499 was only four years old at that
time, and yet the fronts and sides of both cars show significant traffic
damage.  Could their appearance be the result of reduced maintenance during
WWII?  Regardless, the scuff pattern is very similar on both cars - I
wonder if they encountered the same truck or pole...or maybe EACH OTHER if
each were running on the left sides of two NC tracks :-}