[PRCo] Re: http://www.isoservices.com/CSR-Org/index.htm

[Greg King]

Hi Fred,

I tend to agree with you (look at the original Detroit operation, the one
that started it all) BUT, it can work, as long as it goes somewhere form
somewhere, in other words, is a true transport facility in it's own right,
the touchy feely heritage thing is just a bonus to draw them in the first
place.

What these groups need to focus on first is; Is there a need for a transport
corridor there? If not, forget it, it won't work just by having pretty
trolleys there. If there is a need, the figures have to stack up or you end
up seeing a "last car" again. I believe a genuine trolley can do more than
those rediculous bus trolley replicas but it really does have to serve a
purpose, I think the nearly ready San Pedro operation will meet this
criteria, let's hope it works. I also think that, when Mc Kinney is extended
at both ends to serve the LRT, it should also be more successfull, running
normal service with robust and comfortable PCC's and the weekends with the
old cars.

What these forget is, once you have ridden them a few times, the novelty
wears off and they just become another peice of transport, then people start
to talk about noisy uncomfortable streetcars, the very thing that spawnd the
PCC and bus conversions, this is why the historic cars should be kept for
special events or weekends, sure, use the historic them for selling the line
in the first place, but if it's going to run all day, it needs to be
comfortable too, unless you live in New Orleans!!! Sorry guys, that's one
place that really puts lie to everything, that wonderfull place where they
are building a brand new 1920's LRT line!! And it WILL work there, sorry,
I'm rambling.

Cheers for now
Greg in Oz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Schneider" <fschnei at supernet.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 8:54 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: http://www.isoservices.com/CSR-Org/index.htm


>
> Re: the link to the Cincinnati trolley promoters, I  never cease t be
> amazed by those who think they can bring back what didn't work in the
> past in order to give it a second chance to fail.   In the last year
> I've seen and ridden empty cars (except for EHL, myself, and the
> motorman) on the McKinney Avenue operation in Dallas, and I've ridden
> with a small group of people on cars in Memphis (you had a choice of
> 3/4s of the seats in the car).  Memphis was great ... the trolley really
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